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ETBs and GTPs comparison ^^

St0n3_C0ld Feb 10, 2010 01:36 PM

I'd like to know all about ETBs since they have taken my interest quite a lot and maybe i'll plan to have one sometimes ^^
I have some GTPs here and would like to know if there's differences between these two species in terms of handling temperament and feeding..
Is ETB's temperament about the same with GTPs'?
Is ETB harder to feed than GTP? I mean, does ETB eat as regularly as GTP?

Thanks a lot for the advice guyz ^^

Replies (6)

vegasbilly Feb 10, 2010 03:07 PM

Chondros are way easier than ETBs! ETBs are far more onery in temperment though I have had some cantankerous Chondros. ETBs feed far less...overfeeding them or feeding too large a prey item is bad news for them long-term. ETBs require much more care and tolerate far less in husbandry "mistakes" than do Chondros. They are almost polar-opposites in this regard. Anybody in here can write volumes on this but in reality the only traits they share is their coloration and arboreal nature.
Bill

St0n3_C0ld Feb 10, 2010 04:22 PM

Based on what i heard, ETBs' bite are more painful than chondros, is it true?
So u mean there are far more "handleable" chondros out there than "handleable" ETBs? Is it harder to get ETBs to eat than chondros?

I read in here there are 2 localities for ETBs, huh? Amazon basin and northern one rite? How to tell the difference between them by the way?
kinda wonder here, why would arboreal specimens like chondros and ETBs, also ATBs tend to be bad-tempered than other snakes? >.

chance0540 Feb 10, 2010 04:56 PM

Hello,
A few quick answers....I don't do chondros, but I do have Basins,Northerns,as well as Designers. Emeralds are def. more temperamental than chondros. Easy to tell the diff. in Basins/Northerns (a nice Basin is fully striped from head to tail, Northerns have bolts going across body,as well as Basins are larger). More care needs to be taken as far as temp. and humidity, that affects feeding. As far as bite...a full grown emerald has largest "fangs" of any nonvenomous snake, but don't let it be a concern. I've been bitten by worse. Daytime I have no problem taking them out to clean cages etc. 10 min. after the lights go out, I tend not to disturb then unless feeding. Not a "starter" snake but my favorite, beautiful animals. If you're willing to put in the time, I wouldn't steer you away.

St0n3_C0ld Feb 11, 2010 12:57 AM

all right i understand the difference now, but is it true that the amazon ones are somehow more "handleable"?
Do u guyz know methods on how to handle an ETB successfully with less agression?

Rico Walder Feb 11, 2010 12:38 PM

Chance covered things pretty well. GTP's are definitely a bit easier for people just getting into arboreal's. Be sure to find a breeder who can provide you with all the animals history including parent pics, feeding/shedding records and will give you support after your purchase.

As far as handling goes, here is a link to an article that was in Reptiles magazine about it.

http://www.signalherp.com/whybebitten.pdf

Enjoy.

Rico Walder
Signal Herpetoculture
Signal Herpetoculture
Signal Herpetoculture

coolhl7 Feb 12, 2010 09:49 AM

Rico, do you know anyone who breeds ETBs????(LOL)
I have 2 of Rico's ETBs and they are a delight.
None of my ETBs have any attitude but then again neither
does my biak.
Rico, if you have a female biak or high white aru up to 4 years old please e-mail me.
Norm

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