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Ok. I've produced several hundred baby kenyans over the last decade. I just had a mystery pop up in my latest litter. 15 babies were born, 6 were yellows, and 9 were oranges. Of the litter 3 were born that look much paler than normal. Do I get my hopes up that this can be hypos, or do they just vary this much. Mine never had, but I've produced most of my babies from the same line of snakes. This was the first breeding for both parents. I've never produced any as pale as this.

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Travis Rose
0.1 Normal Kenyan
2.3 High Orange Kenyans
0.2 High Orange Albino Kenyans
0.1 Anery Kenyan
1.2 High White Anery Kenyans
1.0 Yellow Snow Kenyan
1.2 Indian sand boas
X.X Nervous Rats
X.X Paranoid Mice
0.3 Dogs
0.1 Cat
X.X Fish
0.1 Very understanding wife
2.0 Future Snake Lovers

Another look

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Travis Rose
0.1 Normal Kenyan
2.3 High Orange Kenyans
0.2 High Orange Albino Kenyans
0.1 Anery Kenyan
1.2 High White Anery Kenyans
1.0 Yellow Snow Kenyan
1.2 Indian sand boas
X.X Nervous Rats
X.X Paranoid Mice
0.3 Dogs
0.1 Cat
X.X Fish
0.1 Very understanding wife
2.0 Future Snake Lovers

Outstanding!

I'll keep them back and breed them back to Mom...or maybe a sibling. Both of the really washed out ones are males.

Don't know if its genetic (obviously), but even if it isn't, its still cool to me. Like I mentioned before, I've produced several hundred babies and I've never produced anything like these.
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Travis Rose
0.1 Normal Kenyan
2.3 High Orange Kenyans
0.2 High Orange Albino Kenyans
0.1 Anery Kenyan
1.2 High White Anery Kenyans
1.0 Yellow Snow Kenyan
1.2 Indian sand boas
X.X Nervous Rats
X.X Paranoid Mice
0.3 Dogs
0.1 Cat
X.X Fish
0.1 Very understanding wife
2.0 Future Snake Lovers

Why don't you post a picture of the mother and father of these fine specimens........lol.
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Mark Huntley
Sand Boa Morphs

Kenyan Sand Boa's
4.1 Rufescens
1.2 Albinos
0.5 Dodoma
2.1 Flame
2.5.8 Normal (orange)
3.4.10 Anery
0.1 Snow
2.2 Hopeful Yellow Snow
0.1 Splash Albino
1.0 Splash Anery
1.0 Orange Stripe 100% Het Anery
1.0 High Orange Stripe
1.0 Yellow Stripe
0.4 High Orange Tiger
2.2 High Orange
2.3 Boston Terriers
0.2 Sooners
8.30 Rhode Island Reds
0.0.15 Tropical Fish
0.1 Moody Wives
1.1 On the fence in-laws
2.1 Rug Rats

http://sandboamorphs.blogspot.com/

Don't be a butt Mark. You already knew who the mom was and that dad had two possibilities. No need to rub it in I can't help it if my snakes are swingers.
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Travis Rose
0.1 Normal Kenyan
2.3 High Orange Kenyans
0.2 High Orange Albino Kenyans
0.1 Anery Kenyan
1.2 High White Anery Kenyans
1.0 Yellow Snow Kenyan
1.2 Indian sand boas
X.X Nervous Rats
X.X Paranoid Mice
0.3 Dogs
0.1 Cat
X.X Fish
0.1 Very understanding wife
2.0 Future Snake Lovers

Sounds like something that belongs on Jerry Springer!

Sorry, I couldn't resist!
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Mark Huntley
Sand Boa Morphs

Kenyan Sand Boa's
4.1 Rufescens
1.2 Albinos
0.5 Dodoma
2.1 Flame
2.5.8 Normal (orange)
3.4.10 Anery
0.1 Snow
2.2 Hopeful Yellow Snow
0.1 Splash Albino
1.0 Splash Anery
1.0 Orange Stripe 100% Het Anery
1.0 High Orange Stripe
1.0 Yellow Stripe
0.4 High Orange Tiger
2.2 High Orange
2.3 Boston Terriers
0.2 Sooners
8.30 Rhode Island Reds
0.0.15 Tropical Fish
0.1 Moody Wives
1.1 On the fence in-laws
2.1 Rug Rats

http://sandboamorphs.blogspot.com/

Absolutely right.

She tried to claim the albino was the father, but after the results came back (no albinos) we knew she was lying. We are interigating the other two prospects but both are claiming that they aren't the daddy.

I'll keep you posted

P.S. My butt is sore from kicking myself so much over the last week.
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Travis Rose
0.1 Normal Kenyan
2.3 High Orange Kenyans
0.2 High Orange Albino Kenyans
0.1 Anery Kenyan
1.2 High White Anery Kenyans
1.0 Yellow Snow Kenyan
1.2 Indian sand boas
X.X Nervous Rats
X.X Paranoid Mice
0.3 Dogs
0.1 Cat
X.X Fish
0.1 Very understanding wife
2.0 Future Snake Lovers

Let me know if any of them need representation.
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Mark Huntley
Sand Boa Morphs

Kenyan Sand Boa's
4.1 Rufescens
1.2 Albinos
0.5 Dodoma
2.1 Flame
2.5.8 Normal (orange)
3.4.10 Anery
0.1 Snow
2.2 Hopeful Yellow Snow
0.1 Splash Albino
1.0 Splash Anery
1.0 Orange Stripe 100% Het Anery
1.0 High Orange Stripe
1.0 Yellow Stripe
0.4 High Orange Tiger
2.2 High Orange
2.3 Boston Terriers
0.2 Sooners
8.30 Rhode Island Reds
0.0.15 Tropical Fish
0.1 Moody Wives
1.1 On the fence in-laws
2.1 Rug Rats

http://sandboamorphs.blogspot.com/

Wow. I cant say I have ever produced (or seen) kenyans like that before. You might have been one of the lucky ones and stumbled across a new mutation. Only time will tell. I would definitely breed that same pair together again next year! Would you say that all three have the same degree of washed out black? Shoot me an email at sandboa@hotmail.com. I would like to discuss them a little more in depth, if you don't mind.
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Lee Frey
Serpents Plus (aka. Lee Herps)
sandboa@hotmail.com

Looks photoshoped to me....lol.

I'm kidding.

Hypo? We're seeing the 'washed out' look more and more.

I know Steve Perry has a nice group of Hypos he's working on but I think he's concentrating on anery, albino and snows.
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Mark Huntley
Sand Boa Morphs

Kenyan Sand Boa's
4.1 Rufescens
1.2 Albinos
0.5 Dodoma
2.1 Flame
2.5.8 Normal (orange)
3.4.10 Anery
0.1 Snow
2.2 Hopeful Yellow Snow
0.1 Splash Albino
1.0 Splash Anery
1.0 Orange Stripe 100% Het Anery
1.0 High Orange Stripe
1.0 Yellow Stripe
0.4 High Orange Tiger
2.2 High Orange
2.3 Boston Terriers
0.2 Sooners
8.30 Rhode Island Reds
0.0.15 Tropical Fish
0.1 Moody Wives
1.1 On the fence in-laws
2.1 Rug Rats

http://sandboamorphs.blogspot.com/

Very cool. I have seen a couple individuals that looked like that but cannot remember where. I would hold on to them (or send them to me) and breed them back to each other / parents. Hopefully it proves out to be something genetic.

Very cool.... lets see some more photos.

Thanks for sharing,
Chris
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Christopher E. Smith
Contact
Captive Bred Herps
Wildlife Research & Consulting Services, LLC

Just figured out where I saw the other similar looking kenyan.... in the classifieds.

-Chris
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Christopher E. Smith
Contact
Captive Bred Herps
Wildlife Research & Consulting Services, LLC

It seems like I remember new age reptiles selling a male similiar to yours over Christmas?
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Mark Huntley
Sand Boa Morphs

Kenyan Sand Boa's
4.1 Rufescens
1.2 Albinos
0.5 Dodoma
2.1 Flame
2.5.8 Normal (orange)
3.4.10 Anery
0.1 Snow
2.2 Hopeful Yellow Snow
0.1 Splash Albino
1.0 Splash Anery
1.0 Orange Stripe 100% Het Anery
1.0 High Orange Stripe
1.0 Yellow Stripe
0.4 High Orange Tiger
2.2 High Orange
2.3 Boston Terriers
0.2 Sooners
8.30 Rhode Island Reds
0.0.15 Tropical Fish
0.1 Moody Wives
1.1 On the fence in-laws
2.1 Rug Rats

http://sandboamorphs.blogspot.com/

New age reptiles actually has one posted on there today with that same washed out pattern. Very cool snake.
Mark

Looks pretty cool. If it was a female I'd buy it. At least 2 of my pale ones turned out to be males. I have 1 yellow one I can't decide if its pale or just hasn't shed out yet.
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Travis Rose
0.1 Normal Kenyan
2.3 High Orange Kenyans
0.2 High Orange Albino Kenyans
0.1 Anery Kenyan
1.2 High White Anery Kenyans
1.0 Yellow Snow Kenyan
1.2 Indian sand boas
X.X Nervous Rats
X.X Paranoid Mice
0.3 Dogs
0.1 Cat
X.X Fish
0.1 Very understanding wife
2.0 Future Snake Lovers

very cool! I have seen a few that looked close but not that faded. looks in shed?
Definetly a hold back.
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Steve Perry
North Idaho.