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Does ANYONE love T. elegans vagrans?

arnold_elvis Mar 12, 2010 02:28 AM

Well, I know that Don does, since he was kind enough to provide me with a breeding pair for the spring season, but does anyone else? Don't get me wrong--I love black-necks, checkereds, and a lot of the aberrant morphs...it just seems like the wandering could stake a claim to getting the least amount of respect from the community at large. They've got voracious appetites, a varied diet, and, well, heck, I grew up chasing 'em in the Salt Lake Valley.

Am I indeed alone?
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"Arnold Elvis"

1.0 Abbott Okeetee corn snake - "Shane"
0.1 Banded Miami corn snake - "Miami"
1.0 Hypomelanistic red-tailed boa constrictor - "Escobar"
2.1 Wandering garter snakes - "McFly," "Lorraine," "Hunter"
1.0 Kankakee bull snake - Choosing to remain nameless at present

Replies (9)

ssssnakeluver Mar 12, 2010 12:38 PM

have you looked at the thamnophis.com forum? there's a handful on there that love them!! one of the moderators breeds them also

AmandaTolleson Mar 12, 2010 01:11 PM

I do!! I think they are stunning in all of their variable colors.

Stefan-A Mar 13, 2010 12:57 PM

You are definitely not alone, I personally consider them the most fascinating of the genus. They might not be the most colourful, their beauty is a lot more subtle.
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2.2 Thamnophis elegans vagrans
0.1 Thamnophis sirtalis tetrataenia
1.1 Natrix maura

dekaybrown Mar 13, 2010 02:42 PM

I have one I got from Don, He's a great snake!
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Regards,
Wayne A. Harvey
Thamnophis US
Dances With Reptiles

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0.1.0 Thamnophis sirtalis Eastern Snow "Snowflake"
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1.1.0. Thamnophis elegans vagrans Wandering Garter
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arnold_elvis Mar 13, 2010 03:48 PM

>>I have one I got from Don, He's a great snake!

Don is a great guy, too. I grew up in his neck of the woods and he was kind enough to send me a breeding pair since I'm now out here in the land of the Eastern garter in eastern Illinois.

I will confess, however, that there is little I find appealing about the Nerodia sipedon that I see when herping (often as many as two dozen a day).
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"Arnold Elvis"

1.0 Abbott Okeetee corn snake - "Shane"
0.1 Banded Miami corn snake - "Miami"
1.0 Hypomelanistic red-tailed boa constrictor - "Escobar"
2.1 Wandering garter snakes - "McFly," "Lorraine," "Hunter"
1.0 Kankakee bull snake - Choosing to remain nameless at present

SnakeyLakey Mar 14, 2010 11:18 PM

My T. elegans vagrans, named Ellie, is a very sweet snake.

I wish that I knew Ellie's gender, so that I can find him / her a mate.

My other snake is a Great Basin Gopher. Both were caught locally.

Snakey Lakey

arnold_elvis Mar 14, 2010 11:21 PM

I'm going to hazzard a guess that you live in the SLC valley (or thereabouts). I could never get a WC Great Basin gopher to eat in captivity and thus never kept anything but a single CB male. Incidentally, the gophers were the only snakes to ever scare me as a kid; there was nothing like being eye-to-eye with a five-footer hissing and assuming the S-shape.

I love the genus, though, and just acquired a Kankakee bull.

>>My T. elegans vagrans, named Ellie, is a very sweet snake.
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>>I wish that I knew Ellie's gender, so that I can find him / her a mate.
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>>My other snake is a Great Basin Gopher. Both were caught locally.
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>>Snakey Lakey

SnakeyLakey Mar 15, 2010 12:26 AM

I'm a bit further north and west, in the Oregon High Desert.

True, the Great Basin Gopher "Go-Go" is a very finicky eater (s/he usually only eats in the spring and early summer), but I have managed to keep him / her since May of 2002. Go-Go was about 3.5 feet long when caught, and now is about 4 feet. I caught Ellie, my Wandering Garter, about three-fourths of a year before Go-Go.

Snakey Lakey

ssssnakeluver Mar 15, 2010 05:14 PM

I've had a few gt basin gophers eat just fine.

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