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do cresteds lay dud eggs?

Argos_Mom Apr 07, 2010 04:17 PM

i keep finding little white objects that are egg shaped but feel weird and arent as big as crested eggs look. could it be poo? all i ever see of the poo is kinda like bird poo on the sides of the cage. i have no idea what these things are and i dont find them a lot just one or two every now and then, usually kinda of buried in the substrate. could these be cricket eggs
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Owner of:
7 Ball Pythons
4 crested Geckos
1 Bearded Dragons
1 Iguana
1 Red tail boa hybrid
1 hamsters
9dogs
8cats
5 kittens
1 rat

RIP:
Rocky-chow mix-11 years
Willow-lab mix-8 years
Kain-Savannah Monitor-2 years
Scooter-sulcata tortise-1 year
Mr Krabs-hermit crab-5 years
Niko-gerbil-3 years
sweet pea&niblet-dwarf hamsters-1 year
Hannibal-dwarf hamster 2 years

Scarlett- hamster-3 years
wicket-hamster-2 years
pixie- ball python- 3 years

Replies (6)

Argos_Mom Apr 07, 2010 09:17 PM

ok after a closer look they are eggs. i dont have any vermiculite and as its 10 at night i dont have any way to get any. i have them in a tupperwear on a damp paper towel in my closet. i have no clue if they are any good. one is tight like full and one is kind of sinking in like its been there a while.. there was another one but it smelled rotten so i tossed it..and it was yellow. these are white with some brown from the tanks substrate. how am i doing so far
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Owner of:
7 Ball Pythons
4 crested Geckos
1 Bearded Dragons
1 Iguana
1 Red tail boa hybrid
1 hamsters
9dogs
8cats
5 kittens
1 rat

RIP:
Rocky-chow mix-11 years
Willow-lab mix-8 years
Kain-Savannah Monitor-2 years
Scooter-sulcata tortise-1 year
Mr Krabs-hermit crab-5 years
Niko-gerbil-3 years
sweet pea&niblet-dwarf hamsters-1 year
Hannibal-dwarf hamster 2 years

Scarlett- hamster-3 years
wicket-hamster-2 years
pixie- ball python- 3 years

PHLdyPayne Apr 08, 2010 07:27 PM

If you don't have male crested geckos with your females, the eggs are infertile and no point trying to incubate them. Crested geckos females can lay infertile eggs much like most lizards and birds.

If you do have males in with your females or your female has been mated in the last year, then there is a good chance some or all the eggs are fertile. Best way to incubate is in vermiculite or perlite (or even a sand/soil mix) which is slightly damp. With vermiculite, its about one part vermiculite to one part water by weight. Crested gecko eggs incubate fine at normal room temperature...between 70-75F and take about 60-65 days to hatch. I always hatched mine at about 73F and usually take about 65 days depending on temperature fluctuations in my apartment. I don't use an incubator at all since my apartment tends to stay between 72-76F year around.
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PHLdyPayne

Argos_Mom Apr 09, 2010 09:55 PM

there is a male in there, but i have no idea how long they've been in there. I didnt notice any of them getting fat. how many do they normally lay? i only found 4 and theres 2 females. but do the eggs start sinking in after a while? one of them looks like it either has been there a while or isnt any good. the other one if full like it was just laid. the other two smelled
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Owner of:
7 Ball Pythons
4 crested Geckos
1 Bearded Dragons
1 Iguana
1 Red tail boa hybrid
1 hamsters
9dogs
8cats
5 kittens
1 rat

RIP:
Rocky-chow mix-11 years
Willow-lab mix-8 years
Kain-Savannah Monitor-2 years
Scooter-sulcata tortise-1 year
Mr Krabs-hermit crab-5 years
Niko-gerbil-3 years
sweet pea&niblet-dwarf hamsters-1 year
Hannibal-dwarf hamster 2 years

Scarlett- hamster-3 years
wicket-hamster-2 years
pixie- ball python- 3 years

PHLdyPayne Apr 10, 2010 04:10 PM

If laid in the cage substrate or cage floor, they can dry out pretty quick, fertile or otherwise. Crested gecko eggs do need a fair amount of humidity to incubate fully. Its always recommended to have an egg laying box in the cage with damp sand/soil mix or even damp coconut husk fiber (ie 'bed a beast' is one brand name for it..coir is the technical name..basically it comes in a brick you add water to, and the brick expands more than ten times in size...so its light and fluffy.) Eggs should be transferred into a deli dish with a vermiculite/water mixed in equal parts by weight (ie 50g of vermiculate to 50g of water) Crested gecko eggs can be incubated at room temperature...anywhere between 70-78F. I typically incubate between 73-75F which is pretty much my room temperature.

If you find the eggs already badly dried out and smelly, they are dead eggs, whether they were fertile before or not. The females will lay about once every 3-4 months and you can notice the eggs forming in them as whitish ovals through their underbellies. They don't get hugely fat when gravid but there is a noticeable increase in girth when they are close to time to lay eggs. It would be a good idea now, to check the cage completely for any other eggs and remove them. Then check weekly till you find the next fresh batch then you can check about 2-3 weeks later for more. Its far easier to find eggs if you use a papertowel substrate and provide an egg laying bin. If you use soil/sand or coir as the substrate, its much harder as the geckos may not use a egg laying bin, unless it is perfect and the substrate elsewhere in the cage isn't.
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PHLdyPayne

Argos_Mom Apr 10, 2010 09:13 PM

gotcha. how many eggs do they normally lay? I have the 2 that i found in vermiculite in a airtight container in the back of my closet where it is warmer then my room and it wont get jostled. the two i have left arent smelly and havnet changed in looks or smell since i got them out of the cage. ive been checking the cage every day now. the substrate in the bottom of the ccage is always kept moist but i suppose i need to make a nest box. i got the sand part. what would u suggest i make the box out of.
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Owner of:
7 Ball Pythons
4 crested Geckos
1 Bearded Dragons
1 Iguana
1 Red tail boa hybrid
1 hamsters
9dogs
8cats
5 kittens
1 rat

RIP:
Rocky-chow mix-11 years
Willow-lab mix-8 years
Kain-Savannah Monitor-2 years
Scooter-sulcata tortise-1 year
Mr Krabs-hermit crab-5 years
Niko-gerbil-3 years
sweet pea&niblet-dwarf hamsters-1 year
Hannibal-dwarf hamster 2 years

Scarlett- hamster-3 years
wicket-hamster-2 years
pixie- ball python- 3 years

PHLdyPayne Apr 11, 2010 08:11 PM

Crested geckos normally lay two eggs per clutch. They can have anywhere between 4-6 clutches a year, maybe more. Its always best to 'cool' them after they have laid 4-6 clutches, as they could have as many as a clutch every month year around. To cool just lower temperatures to about 70F and keep feeding etc as normal.

ALso, its a good idea to place a shallow dish with calcium powder in the cage, so the females can lap it up at will. This will prevent risks of calcium crash. Egg laying crested geckos can use up calcium fast, especially after they shell eggs inside of them...they can suffer MBD fast and suddenly, to the point of being fine one night, then crash the next night with twitching, rubbery jaws etc. I find keeping calcium in the cage instead of relying on dusting insects or the powdered diet, helps prevent calcium crashing as the geckos can help themselves to calcium at will.
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PHLdyPayne

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