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is it leagal to ship them from there to the states?

this has been an extensive thread in some other forums. NO, it is not legal to "SHIP" jacksoms from hawaii to the states, unless you travel with them. and you have a permit issued by the hawaii dept of forestry and wildlife. the following was taken from that website; Any person wanting to export a chameleon from Hawaii must obtain an export permit from the Division of Forestry and Wildlife office on the island of Oahu only. The office is located at 1151 Punchbowl St., Rm. 325, Honolulu, Hawaii 96813 (808) 587-0166. We will need your photo identification card. Whether you catch it yourself or purchase it you still need an export permit. The maximum number you can export is four, and you may only do so one time. You may not export chameleons for commercial purposes.

Jackson’s Chameleons are an endangered species in their native range. Therefore, to export a chameleon to another country, you must also obtain a Cites permit from the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service. Call (808) 861-8525.

Other important information you should know:
1. Before obtaining a chameleon to export, we recommend you check with your airline to see if it will accept it on their aircraft.
2. Chameleons may not be taken from island to island in Hawaii.

More information:
Hawaii does not allow Chameleons to leave the state except as hand carried animals. It is illegal to mail them.

It is important for pet fanciers to understand that chameleons, as an alien species that is not native to Hawaii, are not welcome in Hawai‘i.

Chameleons themselves prey on insects and have shown the ability to spread widely into forest areas where they are yet another predator on Hawai‘i's native insects. Each species of animal that may be accidentally or intentionally introduced into the Hawaiian forest also increases the potential prey base for Brown Tree Snakes and other snakes, which increases the likelihood of these alien species successfully establishing populations. Illegal chameleon exporting is still occurring. Collectors trespass and damage private property in addition to keeping the animals they catch in large numbers in residential areas, potentially exposing themselves and their neighbors to salmonella.

Why doesn’t the state encourage people to catch and export the animals we don't want? Because when there is a potential profit to be made these individuals have moved Jackson's Chameleons and other species around the islands to "ranch" them in wilderness areas. Because the amount of captures does not really seem to significantly reduce the population of chameleons and encourages collectors to spread them to new areas, the State of Hawaii Department of Land and Natural Resources instituted the policy of making commercial export illegal.

For information about specific statutes regarding injurious alien species, or to talk with a taxonomist about reporting a new species in their area call the State Invasive Species Coordinator at 587-0164. /

Great info, thanks! I don't think jackson's are considered "endangered" in their native range, but they are one of many cham species for which export from their native range is restricted. I don't think they are listed on CITES Appendix A which is reserved for species you can't import or export except for research or species recovery purposes. If I am mistaken let me know?

the words are not mine,the information was cut and pasted directly from the hawaii dept of land and natural resources website

i find the whole cites thing fairly confusing. i am assuming that the previous info was written by a stae biologist off the to of his head. this maybe nit picking but as near as i can tell there is no cites appendix "A" only appendices I,II,III. a quick review of the cites website indicates "chamaeleo jacksonii" was listed to appendix II 04-02-77. there is further notation for chamaeleo jacksonii merumontanus, which i did not follow. cites would only apply if trying to transport (from hawaii) to a country other than the us. even if you have the jackson's and the permit, you still have to find a consenting airline, the state will not recomend one and in the numerous threads on this subject that i have participated in, no one has yet to come forward and identify one.

thanks for the info

Oh, I was thinking of someone trying to get a jax from Africa, not Hawaii. I can never remember if the CITES appendices are titled with letters or numbers. You are correct...endangered species are lited on Appendix 1, not A. But, the point I was trying to make was, Jackson's are not catagorized as endangered according to CITES. Their trade is regulated by permit, but does occur (from Africa). Is that clearer?

xanths are cites appendix II