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Wow, talk about an exciting week, this week I aquired some amazing new animals.
First and foremost today I aquired a newly found wild caught Albino plains garter T. radix.
This snake was aquired from Chad Howser, this snake was found in Dodge Co. in Nebraska, about 50 miles west of Omaho. This general area is rich with morphs and has produced several albinos and erythristic (red) radix over the years. This albino was found in the general region were my red radix was found that I aquired from Ian Cambell last year. I believe this snake may end up being compatible to the current Nebraska albino strain, however it may not, and while it has some similarities in appearance it has some definately distiguishing characteristics as well and I belive that is has some of the red radix characteristics as well. This animal has a much lighter and duller straw colored background color, the eyes are lighter, yet a much darker orange dorsal stripe, and has orange color surrounding the dark checkers on the sides, and it has a pinkish/orangish ghostly look to it.




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Jeff Benfer
gartersnakemorph.com

Jeff,

Excellent acquisition ! It will be interesting to see it's compatible w/ the Nebraska albino. If not, it could create a whole new line of morphs (snows, blizzards etc).

Scott

Nice find Jeff.

Hmmmm.. where haven't I seen that before.
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Regards,
Wayne A. Harvey
Thamnophis US
Dances With Reptiles

2.1.0 Thamnophis Infernalis- California Red Sided Garter Snakes
1.1.0 Flame X Erythristic Eastern Garter Snakes
2.0.0 Melanistic Thamnophis Sirtalis Sirtalis
1.0.0 Kansas Albino Red Sided Thamnophis sirtalis parietalis
0.1.0 Thamnophis sirtalis parietalis Golden / Albino cross
0.1.0 Thamnophis sirtalis parietalis Anerythristic morph
0.1.0 Thamnophis RADIX - axanthic morph
2.1.0 Thamnophis RADIX - Iowa Snow
1.1.0 Thamnophis RADIX - Snow Het
0.1.0 Thamnophis RADIX - Snow/Nebraska Albino double Het
0.1.0 Thamnophis RADIX - Christmas Albino
0.1.0 Thamnophis cyrtopsis Easter Black Neck Garter "MoJo"
0.1.0 Thamnophis sirtalis Eastern Snow "Snowflake"
0.1.0 Thamnophis similis "true blue" This gal bites!
1.1.0. Thamnophis elegans vagrans Wandering Garter
2.1.0 Thamnophis sirtalis - eastern Garters
0.0.1 Thamnophis HybridAlbino Checkered Normal eastern"Mutt"
2.0.0 Thamnophis sirtalis - eastern Garters (xtreme orange phase)
0.0.0 Thamnophis butleriButler's Garter Snake (died)
0.0.1 Thamnophis proximus orariusCoastal Ribbon Snake
0.0.1 Thamnophis sirtalis - Eastern Garter baby
1.1.0 Thamnophis sirtalis parietalis HET Anerythristic
1.0.0 Thamnophis pickeringi - Puget Sound Garter "Sky" (adult, Sky blue)
1.0.0 Florida Black racer - fiesty yet way cool.
1.0.1 Nerodia sipedon - Water Snakes Pink eaters!
0.0.1 Amelanistic Corn Snake "CY" adult CB (pet store sale)
1.0.1. Pueblan Milk snakes "Oreo" adult & a '09 baby CB
1.0.0. ASIAN GREEN SNAKE 3' WC Cyclophiops major"Limon"
0.0.1. Savannah Monitor "CHOMPER" Getting Huge!
0.1.0. Green Anole "Crystal"
0.1.0 Oscar (Astronotus ocellatus) - "Peach" (A Monitor with fins)
1.0.0 Ball Python - Python regius "Cain" Rescued from a crack house
0.1.9 Eastern MilkSnake WC "Carmella" adult super sweet temperment
1.5.0 Storeria dekayi - Brown Snakes Casper, Xena, Athena, Copper, Sharon & others
1.1.0. K9 "ACE" Black Cockapoo, Diamond b/w cockapoo

Yah Scott it will be interesting to see if it is compatible, but I have a couple other project ideas that might have to come first.

Wayne sorry I didn't get this posted up on your forum My Pet Forums, it was late last night and I needed to get some sleep for work today.
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Jeff Benfer
gartersnakemorph.com

I had some spare time, so I put them up for you bud. NP...

Service with a smile.
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Regards,
Wayne A. Harvey
Thamnophis US
Dances With Reptiles

2.1.0 Thamnophis Infernalis- California Red Sided Garter Snakes
1.1.0 Flame X Erythristic Eastern Garter Snakes
2.0.0 Melanistic Thamnophis Sirtalis Sirtalis
1.0.0 Kansas Albino Red Sided Thamnophis sirtalis parietalis
0.1.0 Thamnophis sirtalis parietalis Golden / Albino cross
0.1.0 Thamnophis sirtalis parietalis Anerythristic morph
0.1.0 Thamnophis RADIX - axanthic morph
2.1.0 Thamnophis RADIX - Iowa Snow
1.1.0 Thamnophis RADIX - Snow Het
0.1.0 Thamnophis RADIX - Snow/Nebraska Albino double Het
0.1.0 Thamnophis RADIX - Christmas Albino
0.1.0 Thamnophis cyrtopsis Easter Black Neck Garter "MoJo"
0.1.0 Thamnophis sirtalis Eastern Snow "Snowflake"
0.1.0 Thamnophis similis "true blue" This gal bites!
1.1.0. Thamnophis elegans vagrans Wandering Garter
2.1.0 Thamnophis sirtalis - eastern Garters
0.0.1 Thamnophis HybridAlbino Checkered Normal eastern"Mutt"
2.0.0 Thamnophis sirtalis - eastern Garters (xtreme orange phase)
0.0.0 Thamnophis butleriButler's Garter Snake (died)
0.0.1 Thamnophis proximus orariusCoastal Ribbon Snake
0.0.1 Thamnophis sirtalis - Eastern Garter baby
1.1.0 Thamnophis sirtalis parietalis HET Anerythristic
1.0.0 Thamnophis pickeringi - Puget Sound Garter "Sky" (adult, Sky blue)
1.0.0 Florida Black racer - fiesty yet way cool.
1.0.1 Nerodia sipedon - Water Snakes Pink eaters!
0.0.1 Amelanistic Corn Snake "CY" adult CB (pet store sale)
1.0.1. Pueblan Milk snakes "Oreo" adult & a '09 baby CB
1.0.0. ASIAN GREEN SNAKE 3' WC Cyclophiops major"Limon"
0.0.1. Savannah Monitor "CHOMPER" Getting Huge!
0.1.0. Green Anole "Crystal"
0.1.0 Oscar (Astronotus ocellatus) - "Peach" (A Monitor with fins)
1.0.0 Ball Python - Python regius "Cain" Rescued from a crack house
0.1.9 Eastern MilkSnake WC "Carmella" adult super sweet temperment
1.5.0 Storeria dekayi - Brown Snakes Casper, Xena, Athena, Copper, Sharon & others
1.1.0. K9 "ACE" Black Cockapoo, Diamond b/w cockapoo

that's nuts. nice looking snake, reminded me of the hypomelanistic shorthead garter snake I found a couple years back.
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Mike
KingPin Reptiles
www.kingpinreptiles.com

Thansk Mike, short headeds are kind of rare to find aren't they only found in parts of New York and PA? a hypomelanistic would be an extra nice find, do you still have pics ?
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Jeff Benfer
gartersnakemorph.com

I'm sure they're somewhere online, they were bad pics because I don't think I had a digital camera then. But it was the hypo next to a normal. And yeah they are now illegal to keep because they're so rare. In the neighborhood that I live in they are easily the most common snake, one trip to all the snake spots around here you could find dozens and dozens of them. But I guess everywhere else where they should be, they aren't.
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Mike
KingPin Reptiles
www.kingpinreptiles.com

That's pretty cool, Jeff. I really like the way that one looks - a bit different from other albinos.

Tim

Yah Thanks Tim it is a little different and has some neat features, but I don't think it's anything earth shattering like that piebald, and I won't be surprised if it is compatible with the either of the current plains albino strains Nebraska or Iowa, but I would first really like to breed it to a locality red or erythristic radix to kind of keep the locality of the strain first, I have a couple options, Don Belnap has a female red radix from that area, Scott has a red radix offsping, and Chad is going to see if he can find one locally too. I would guess that you would be in favor of the idea of keeping the strain locality first before making other crosses, curious what your oppinion would be Tim?
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Jeff Benfer
gartersnakemorph.com

Jeff,

Initially I would keep the strain with the locality until you produce enough to experiment with mixing localities. I think the snake is different enough that it's worth preserving "as is". From a business standpoint, having your own strain sets you apart.

Later on, I'm sure breeders will want to know if this is mixable with other morphs to continue to create "new looks." But for now, I'd work to establish the existing strain in the "purest" possible form.

Tim

Yeah thats how I was thinking too Tim, thanks for your input.
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Jeff Benfer
gartersnakemorph.com