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carpall questions???

bytheshore1 Jul 06, 2010 07:25 PM

I just hatched out 4 eggs from my normal female ball python that was only bred with my male Jungle Carpet Python. She originally laid 9 eggs and we ended up with 4 good eggs. My question is do they normally look like normal Balls? They have a somewhat brighter back markings and the nose is a little longer but other than that they look like little fat balls. Here are some pics taken at hatching yesterday.

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3 ex wives
2 daughters
0.2 cats
way to many snakes(or so the ex wives say)

Replies (10)

tmshaffer Jul 07, 2010 09:27 AM

>>I just hatched out 4 eggs from my normal female ball python that was only bred with my male Jungle Carpet Python. She originally laid 9 eggs and we ended up with 4 good eggs. My question is do they normally look like normal Balls? They have a somewhat brighter back markings and the nose is a little longer but other than that they look like little fat balls. Here are some pics taken at hatching yesterday.
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>>3 ex wives
>>2 daughters
>>0.2 cats
>>way to many snakes(or so the ex wives say)
She might have retained sperm. When I produced them in 2007 they did not look like normal Ball pythons

bytheshore1 Jul 07, 2010 05:04 PM

I did purchase her as an adult but had her almost a year. Witnessed more than several matings with the carpet that locked up with her time after time then the process of ovulating, the countdown till she dropped and 60 days till they hatched. I guess she could have retained sperm if she had been mated before, not sure, but it would have been almost a full year before that.
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3 ex wives
2 daughters
0.2 cats
way to many snakes(or so the ex wives say)

tmshaffer Jul 08, 2010 08:33 AM

This is when they first hatched. I have seen several clutches of the Carpetxball Crosses. They all look pretty similar.



Sonya Jul 08, 2010 02:08 PM

I have an adult female candoia that has given birth to several young....some still and some squeeshed none live but all fully formed....for the year plus after I got her. She has not been with a male the whole time I have had her. I am amazed how long they can retain sperm.

>>I did purchase her as an adult but had her almost a year. Witnessed more than several matings with the carpet that locked up with her time after time then the process of ovulating, the countdown till she dropped and 60 days till they hatched. I guess she could have retained sperm if she had been mated before, not sure, but it would have been almost a full year before that.
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>>3 ex wives
>>2 daughters
>>0.2 cats
>>way to many snakes(or so the ex wives say)
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Sonya

I'm not mean. You're just a sissy.
Happy Bunny

tmshaffer Jul 08, 2010 03:04 PM

>>I have an adult female candoia that has given birth to several young....some still and some squeeshed none live but all fully formed....for the year plus after I got her. She has not been with a male the whole time I have had her. I am amazed how long they can retain sperm.
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>>>>I did purchase her as an adult but had her almost a year. Witnessed more than several matings with the carpet that locked up with her time after time then the process of ovulating, the countdown till she dropped and 60 days till they hatched. I guess she could have retained sperm if she had been mated before, not sure, but it would have been almost a full year before that.
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>>>>3 ex wives
>>>>2 daughters
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>>>>way to many snakes(or so the ex wives say)
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>>Sonya
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>>I'm not mean. You're just a sissy.
>>Happy Bunny

I had a House snake. It was with a male in January and produced four clutches over the next year

bytheshore1 Jul 08, 2010 04:31 PM

Now thats what I was expecting to see. Those are very nice looking hybrids. I guess I was foiled again. I am still gonna hold them for a while and watch em grow. Sort of like watching my old ford van and wanting it to turn into a Hummer! Well I have been breeding for over 10 years and this is my first experience in a situation like this so I was alittle dumbfounded. I know that they can retain the sperm from earlier matings but the way these 2 went at it over and over again, well just wasnt ecpecting these results for sure!! The retained sperm could have accounted for the 5 bad eggs as well.
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3 ex wives
2 daughters
0.2 cats
way to many snakes(or so the ex wives say)

tmshaffer Jul 09, 2010 03:45 PM

I bred a female Carpet with a male ball. Started with 23 eggs. Than all but 7 went bad. And the snakes gods gave me two sets of twins. Just keep trying that's half the fun

bytheshore1 Jul 09, 2010 04:03 PM

Yep, Thats what i'm gonna have to do! Maybe I will go the other way next time. Carpet female to ball male.?. I went with my male carpet this time to a huge female ball. What way do you think works better? I can see more eggs with the carpet female but these were big eggs with the ball female. I just did it this way because thats the way it worked out with the extra male carpet this time. what do others think? Thanks
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3 ex wives
2 daughters
0.2 cats
way to many snakes(or so the ex wives say)

GPZO Jul 09, 2010 02:51 PM

i think the maternal genes tend to strongly influence the basic anatomy were as the fraternal genes influence more intangible characteristics. i wouldnt be surprised if most carpalls have been of fraternal ball blood line which is why yours look the way the do. i also wouldnt be surprised if the colors change significantly as they age.
Jason

bytheshore1 Jul 10, 2010 07:40 PM

I do plan on holding the 2 pair back just to watch them for a while. Someone else had suggested the same theory of the mat/frat genes. They do have some interesting markings on 2 of them and just want to see if there are any changes as they age and shed. Thanks
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3 ex wives
2 daughters
0.2 cats
way to many snakes(or so the ex wives say)

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