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Hi i am new to this forum - i love tricolors and recently have a 15 3/4 inch zonata from san gabriels. Is this likely a yearling or 2 years old? Thanks - looking forward to learning more about mtn kings and other tricolors

Glad to have you.....this forum is a wee bit quiet, so thanks for helping dust us off.

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Jerry Kruse
www.zonatas.com

And God said, "Let there be zonata subspecies for all to ponder..."

Thanks Jerry - i have seen your website - you sure have some amazing specimens on there

Here are a couple of pics of the L. zonata parviruba which i came across next to my home:

http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd51/firefly1897/zonata/photographsofcoralsnakeRolie007.jpg

http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd51/firefly1897/zonata/photographsofcoralsnakeRolie006.jpg

http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd51/firefly1897/zonata/photographsofcoralsnakeRolie003.jpg

http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd51/firefly1897/zonata/photographsofcoralsnakeRolie008.jpg

Geez my images did not work apparently? I will have to figure out how to post them - i did not name the images, hence it says "coral snake" incorrectly, lol.

All you needed was the image brackets around your image code.....
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...
www.coastalbendcaptivebreeding.com

Hi there, saw your post on the "other" place. As to your question, and it was mentioned there, That size can easily be a 3-5 year old Z. Put it this way, an 18-20 female produced 5 viable eggs that all hatched. Almost any snake's size in the wild, compared to what you see "captive" fed size is very deceiving. It took a while for that to sink in with me too. Have fun on here, but be careful with that Jerry guy........he will ruin your day with pics of his snakes

Absolutely correct..........an animal that size is easy several years old. Figuratively, the window of feeding is often shortened for many z pops and thus beging the wintering over process. So from March/April through to August (give or take a few weeks from one range to the next...) is pretty much it, which is also replicated in well over 90% of my colony.

It's a double-edged knife....gotta work quick or have animals that are too thin going into the cold that just stopped eating. LOL. Far cry from working with getula, thats for sure.

Sierra de San Pedro Martir agalma

Santa Ana pulchra

Santa Clara Coastal multifasciata

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Jerry Kruse
www.zonatas.com

And God said, "Let there be zonata subspecies for all to ponder..."

Hey Jerry, you have any locale info on your santa ana stuff...?. Or are they just that, santa ana mtn Z's..?.
Jeff

Holy Jim Canyon......
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Jerry Kruse
www.zonatas.com

And God said, "Let there be zonata subspecies for all to ponder..."

Santa Ana pulchra DO get bigger on avergae as compared to, say, other localities of pulchra such as Laguna and Palomar. Mine are about 33 inches.
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Jerry Kruse
www.zonatas.com

And God said, "Let there be zonata subspecies for all to ponder..."

man, that pulchra is stunning...looks large too!

Interesting that the 15 3/4 inch z could be several years old - apperently then they grow over time -- approx how long would it take for an average z to become full grown? I remember reading on some website that honduran milks grow to full size in 18 months - perhaps it is because of their tropical origin? what say you?

Me say a few things.....LOL.......

Zonata have a shorter window of time to do what they need to do is my basic reply. It gets colder much faster at higher elevations versus a topical sea-level environment that likely affords longer periods to thrive, greater abundancy of prey items, & the evolutionary history that has molded these creatures into what they are today. So....what think you?
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Jerry Kruse
www.zonatas.com

And God said, "Let there be zonata subspecies for all to ponder..."