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Hi all,
I have a bunch of ball pythons, red tails, hognose and woma's but I just picked up my first GTP and have a question about locality.

What localities thow red babies or do all throw red babies. The guy I bought this from didnt know and he never asked the breeder he got it from nor can he remember who he got it from at a show several months ago.

If they all can throw red babies how do I begin to find out the locality or can I, are there different traits that help narrow down where she is from?

Any help, advice or references would be appreciated.
Travis
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LAIR OF DRAGONS

Hey Travis,

You most likely will never figure out what locality you have 100% but there may be some indications. That is if it's a locality animal.... most US CBB animals are mutts. There are a few breeders doing locality pairings but not many.

Looking at neo color can be an indicator (again if it's really pure). Rawlings and Donnelan published a study in 2003 that showed significant genetic differences in Northern and Southern populations. The dividing line was the central mountain range on the island of New Guinea. Essentially the Southern population which includes Aru, Merauke and the Iron Range in Australia produce only yellow neo's. The Northern populations including Biak, Jayapura, Nabiri and the highlands can produce red and yellow neo's. Sooo if you've got a red neo it's most likely from the Northern population or a mutt and if you've got a yellow it could be from just about anywhere and could also be a mutt.

Your best bet is really to buy from a reputable breeder who has a history of where their animals came from. Most serious GTP breeders in the US will provide pedigree's for their animals that will trace the animals lineage all the way back to founder imports. Again very few US breeders do locality pairings. If the breeder didn't know its more than likely a mutt or the guy wasn't completely honest about where the animal came from. As long as the animal is healthy and thrives for you there really isn't a reason to worry about locality. Hope that helps.

Rico Walder
Signal Herpetoculture

FYI - Attached picture is of a wild GTP in Iron Range Australia.

Signal Herpetoculture

Thanks,
That does help she is a Red but maybe a "mutt" because she could be a cross with anything...doesnt matter she is my first of many more to come after some "balls" start hatching.
Travis
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LAIR OF DRAGONS

looks like one of the 2 to me either a cape york or young biak,am i correct?i say cape york due to the white dotted line down back and color and biak due to under stomach and head size was i wrong?Mr walder you do produce the BEST in the world,if i could afford a baby i would jump on one for my collection,the one in my profile image what kind do you think she is?i she was sold to me as a ARU very sweet comes out for holding 3 times a week never tries to bite,i have few more others are 06 and 09,pictured is a 08,question,not to insult you never would i do that i just wanna know what is the cheapest you sell your young for(baby's)something i could raise close to me as a pet,good eater and paper work none of my chondros have papers i know you provide everything and that alone cost but whats the best deals you have?
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