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Sanzinia m. madagascariensis + volontany

Caribbeanboids Jan 11, 2011 08:49 AM

I keep small groups of both sub-species and I was wondering, if anybody has Sanzinias which can be traced back to specific regions/locales of Madagascar, e.g. Nosy Be in case of the volontany?

Below a picture of one of my volontany, more pics to follow.

Thanks.
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Replies (12)

Caribbeanboids Jan 11, 2011 08:50 AM

more volontany
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Caribbeanboids Jan 11, 2011 08:51 AM

and another one...
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Caribbeanboids Jan 11, 2011 08:52 AM

a green one...
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Caribbeanboids Jan 11, 2011 08:55 AM

...

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Caribbeanboids Jan 11, 2011 08:58 AM

and finally one which (fingers crossed) will become green at some point.
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vegasbilly Jan 12, 2011 03:54 PM

I'd be happy if that one stayed just like it is! Gorgeous animals you have there! You do know you can add multiple pics to a single post right? LOl

Bill

speedyandmerlin Jan 12, 2011 04:36 PM

Nice animals!!!
I doubt you'll ever get any true location data from anyone.
As you probably know these are appendix 1 protected animals.
To my knowlege most in captivity were poached or are the progeny of poached animals. Maybe someone who was lucky enough to get documented offspring from a zoological orginazition would have the collection site????
From what I've heard you need to give up your fist born and two front teeth to get a captive born even from Europe.
All I know from my pair is that my female is from "San Diego Zoo" stock...
I, like you, wish I had location data for mine...
Anyone else have any info??????

vegasbilly Jan 12, 2011 10:48 PM

I think you're spot on! Origins are waay too diluted to trace back now to specific localities. I do have a pair of Mad. Ground Boas that came from Europe...from a gravid wc female no less! There's more to that story but I would only be speculating.

Odd thing is they look nothing like all the closely related Acrantophis in US collections..dorsally they more closely resemble Dumerils. A head scale examination shows the striking differences in head scalations however. They are also far more "robust" in girth and over all size than Dumerils. I'm really curious as to what their offspring will look like. Here's a pic of their head scalation.

Bill

vegasbilly Jan 13, 2011 07:42 PM

Looks like one pair is locked up tight! The smaller (5') female is in the opposite corner being totally ignored. She was being courted a few nights ago so either they've had their way w/her already or the jumbo female is further along. 5 weeks into brumation before the action commenced.
Bill

boidsonly Jan 22, 2011 08:02 PM

I have seen photos of some Nosy Be specimens in Canada and they are incredibly yellow-the best looking I have ever seen. Mine can not compare.
Best regards,
Jeff
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oakbank Jan 22, 2011 11:57 PM

Hi Jeff
Do you have any details or pics. of the Sanzinia that you saw in Canada?
Thanks Heather

Doug T Feb 07, 2011 11:09 PM

I doubt you'll find any locality info. It wasn't important to know when they were brought from Mad'. It would be possible to find that stuff out today with GPS accuracy, but now they'll never leave Mad' legally. Who wants to mess with that? Not me!

Doug T

>>I keep small groups of both sub-species and I was wondering, if anybody has Sanzinias which can be traced back to specific regions/locales of Madagascar, e.g. Nosy Be in case of the volontany?
>>
>>Below a picture of one of my volontany, more pics to follow.
>>
>>Thanks.
>>

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