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What kind of snake is this?

dangerjudy Feb 13, 2011 06:40 PM

some kind of rat snake?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opPf1PMOYVg

Replies (16)

dangerjudy Feb 13, 2011 06:41 PM

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TBrophy Feb 13, 2011 07:35 PM

yellow ratsnake

Bigtattoo Feb 14, 2011 05:02 AM

Pseustes poecilonotus the Neotropical Bird Snake.

If you'll notice the lateral compression of the snake's neck as it grabs that woodpecker. That is not a yellow rat snake.

Check this link.
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TBrophy Feb 14, 2011 06:38 AM

In Florida? The bird is a pileated woodpecker, a US species. Is the snake an escaped exotic?
Thanks

megalon Feb 14, 2011 08:12 AM

I have to go with yellow rat as well. The stripes are fairly faint, but still there. Kinda surprised it kept letting the woodpecker go,though. It must have just eaten everything in the nest, otherwise the bird would've been a snack.
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Bigtattoo Feb 14, 2011 08:42 AM

I've seen this video before and it was then labeled as a Poestes.

Pileated woodpeckers don't have the white V on their backs as this one does. Nor does the red head go down the neck like this one. Breast feathers in the video are scaled in white, pileateds have dark breasts. Pileateds have a red slash along the lower mandible, the vid does not. The actual name of this woodpecker is the Lineated (Dryocopus lineatus) woodpecker from SA.

http://www.avianweb.com/lineatedwoodpeckers.html

This vid was not shot in Fla it's from SA and has been reposted and mislabeled.

My bad I had it as a Poestes poecilonotus when it is actually a sulphureus.
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1.2 P. d. deppei Mexican Pines
2.2 P. l. lineaticollis Linis or Lined Pines
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1.1 Drymarchon melenurus Blacktail Cribo
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tbrophy Feb 14, 2011 08:46 AM

I agree with you. When I saw "northern Florida" in the heading, I assumed yellow ratsnake, even though it did not look quite right. Thanks.

dangerjudy Feb 14, 2011 09:40 AM

Thanks bigtattoo, I am glad to know it's not florida

zmarchetti Feb 14, 2011 12:30 PM

I would definitely agree that this is not Florida. Southern Central or Northern South America. It certainly looks quite alot like Pseustes sulphureus. At 39 seconds in there is a good profile of the snake showing the characteristic lateral compression along with the throat inflation which are trademark defensive displays of the giant bird snake. Also shows well the yellow interstitial skin where the snake gets its specific name sulphureus. As for the woodpecker it is certainly not a Piliated, but I'm inclined to believe it is not a Lineated either. The amount of red on the head and the fact that the white stripes converge to form a full V make it look more like a Crimson Crested Woodpecker Campephilus melanoleucus or one of the other Campephilus spp. However this is a snake forum so that's not really what's important Regardless, it is not in Florida, not a yellow rat snake and instead most likely Pseustes sulphureus the giant bird snake.

Below is a photo of a large (8 foot) P. sulphureus I found in Ecuador.
-Zach

Bigtattoo Feb 14, 2011 02:25 PM

Yep a good chance I may be off on the exact woodpecker that it IS but I'm dead on as to what it is NOT. LOL
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BigT
There is a difference between ignorance and stupidity. The ignorant can be taught, stupidity is beyond our control.
1.2 P. m. melanoleucus B/W N. J. Northern Pines
1.2 P. d. deppei Mexican Pines
2.2 P. l. lineaticollis Linis or Lined Pines
1.2 P. m. lodingi Black Pines
0.3 P. c. sayi Kingsville X Stillwater red bulls
1.1 Drymarchon melenurus Blacktail Cribo
1.2 D. corais Yellowtail Cribos
1.2 M. s. cheynei Jungle Carpet
2.6 L. p. pyromelana Arizona Mt. Kings
1.1 L. g. californiae B/W Cali kings
0.0.3 M. f. flagellum Eastern Coachwhips
1.2 G. m. bottegoi Western Plated lizards

chrish Feb 14, 2011 02:56 PM

I'm embarrased to say that when I first saw this post, I didn't look at the video, but saw that the question had been answered so I moved on. Oops...

I've seen this video a number of times before. It is a Crimson-crested Woodpecker whose nest has been raided by a Pseustes sulphureus. I can't remember where, but it is in northern South America somewhere.
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DMong Feb 14, 2011 01:18 PM

Excellent call Big T!!

I saw ALL those exact same things when I looked at it late last night. There were far too many things that didn't jive.

First was the two South American's in the boat with their accent giving some tourists a nature cruise along the Amazon River..LOL! The laterally-inflated neck stance of the Pseustes, then the zoomed in closeup of the side of the head, then the body structure being more rounded as opposed to the "breadloaf" shape of the ventro-lateral area of A Yellow Rat, etc..

All these things said Pseustes to me too.

Ahh yes,...well-done Grasshopper! next feat will be walking the rice paper without leaving a tear

~Doug
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Bigtattoo Feb 14, 2011 02:24 PM

LMAO Doug. I'll get right on the rice paper after I snatch the pebble from your hand.
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BigT
There is a difference between ignorance and stupidity. The ignorant can be taught, stupidity is beyond our control.
1.2 P. m. melanoleucus B/W N. J. Northern Pines
1.2 P. d. deppei Mexican Pines
2.2 P. l. lineaticollis Linis or Lined Pines
1.2 P. m. lodingi Black Pines
0.3 P. c. sayi Kingsville X Stillwater red bulls
1.1 Drymarchon melenurus Blacktail Cribo
1.2 D. corais Yellowtail Cribos
1.2 M. s. cheynei Jungle Carpet
2.6 L. p. pyromelana Arizona Mt. Kings
1.1 L. g. californiae B/W Cali kings
0.0.3 M. f. flagellum Eastern Coachwhips
1.2 G. m. bottegoi Western Plated lizards

DMong Feb 14, 2011 02:46 PM

HAHAAAHA!! too funny man!

~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

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snaketaboo77 Feb 16, 2011 08:05 AM

determined bird. lol ,lol ,lol

Greg Longhurst Feb 21, 2011 06:36 PM

Big Tat, you may have difficulty snatching the pebble from Doug's hand...he's good! I agree that film clip was done way south of us. The bird is not a pileated, & the snake is not from Florida either. Y'all keep havin' fun! ~~Greg~~

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