Reptile & Amphibian Forums

Welcome to kingsnake.com's message board system. Here you may share and discuss information with others about your favorite reptile and amphibian related topics such as care and feeding, caging requirements, permits and licenses, and more. Launched in 1997, the kingsnake.com message board system is one of the oldest and largest systems on the internet.

Click for 65% off Shipping with Reptiles 2 You
Click for ZooMed

Breeding Dumerils - too late?

ChaosCat Mar 17, 2011 10:48 PM

What time of the year do you typically put your Dumeril's together to breed? I put my male in with my oldest female, the male is hiding under the substrate, and the female is flying all over the cage, tail up and waving, and smelling like an angry garter snake! One site I was looking at said breeding times are October through February, so maybe it's too late.

Replies (4)

PBM Mar 18, 2011 12:38 AM

In my opinion, it's not too late. I have one female developing follicles right now for sure, probably more that I just haven't checked. Depending on your area, and weather patterns, you could easily breed them through spring. I don't like going too into Dumerils breeding because I do a lot of it by observation and work within the parameters they've set within my experience......which could easily be different for anybody else! With ZERO experience breeding Candoia I produced a healthy litter by working with what the animals presented. My daughter noticed follicles in July I think? According to the Candoia "expert" this was the wrong time of year and she would probably slug out if anything-Well, he was WRONG! So, take everything you read as a guideline and do what you're doing right now-Observe YOUR animals and work around what they're presenting to you. Good luck!

ChaosCat Mar 18, 2011 12:42 AM

Well, they are not acting aggressive, and I probed both of them to make sure there was one male and one female. I have experience breeding insular (island) boas - and in my experience with those, the tail waving and cloaca gaping means the female is receptive. Is it the same in Dumerils?

How long should I leave them together? I fed both of them 3 days ago, so I don't think there should be any issues with one eating the other.

>>In my opinion, it's not too late. I have one female developing follicles right now for sure, probably more that I just haven't checked. Depending on your area, and weather patterns, you could easily breed them through spring. I don't like going too into Dumerils breeding because I do a lot of it by observation and work within the parameters they've set within my experience......which could easily be different for anybody else! With ZERO experience breeding Candoia I produced a healthy litter by working with what the animals presented. My daughter noticed follicles in July I think? According to the Candoia "expert" this was the wrong time of year and she would probably slug out if anything-Well, he was WRONG! So, take everything you read as a guideline and do what you're doing right now-Observe YOUR animals and work around what they're presenting to you. Good luck!

PBM Apr 01, 2011 01:20 AM

Sorry, been busy lately. Anyway, I don't get much tail waving from my Dumerils as far as breeding behavior. I get the "luring" a lot out of babies and a few of my adults, but that's off track. I used to watch my BCI do it a lot and just when I thought it meant stay away from me, it would end up in copulations and vice versa. So, I think it could mean either and is probably based on the pheromones they're putting off. I would just cycle them together. If they're courting, leave them be and when they stop for a day or two, seperate, then re-introduce. If you want, you can certainly just leave them together 24/7 for a month at a time. It works for a lot of people.

ChaosCat Apr 01, 2011 01:34 AM

>>Sorry, been busy lately. Anyway, I don't get much tail waving from my Dumerils as far as breeding behavior. I get the "luring" a lot out of babies and a few of my adults, but that's off track. I used to watch my BCI do it a lot and just when I thought it meant stay away from me, it would end up in copulations and vice versa. So, I think it could mean either and is probably based on the pheromones they're putting off. I would just cycle them together. If they're courting, leave them be and when they stop for a day or two, seperate, then re-introduce. If you want, you can certainly just leave them together 24/7 for a month at a time. It works for a lot of people.

Well both females and the male went into shed at the same time, so I seperated them, waited until they shed, and reintroduced the three of them together. Saw a little courting from the male, but haven't seen any actual copulation. However, I'm not around 24/7 (I only check on them once or twice a day) so I could have missed it. Here's to hoping!

Site Tools