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Woo hoo! I bred her 2 years ago and it was a disaster; she retained 5 of 8 eggs and of the 3 she passed only 1 hatched and it died after about a year.
I gave her a year off and tried again; today she laid 10 seemingly good eggs.

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I'm really excited. The next 100 days or so are going to take forever!

Those look like good eggs to me. Eric,What happened to the 5 eggs
she didn't pass the last time? Did she pass them on her own or
were they surgically removed.
Congrats on a nice clutch!

>>Those look like good eggs to me. Eric,What happened to the 5 eggs
>>she didn't pass the last time? Did she pass them on her own or
>>were they surgically removed.
>>Congrats on a nice clutch!

Sadly, the eggs had to be aspirated before she could pass them.

And she passed them on her own? I just had to do that to an egg
that I massaged down as far I could get it. I went through the ventral scales and pulled about 40cc's of yolk/albumen from the egg. She passed 12 good eggs no problem. Im glad for you that
she produced 10 good eggs. Thats Great!!!
Thanks

Seth

That's a great site to see, congrats on the clutch and best of luck with them.
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At first I misread "Easter Eggs". Congratulations on a fine clutch and your diligance. Looks like more than 100 Eastern hatchlings will be emerging around the country to add to the captive population. In your photo it appears that eggs are in vermiculite. In the past I've had some indigo eggs swell up too much or burst because I had vermiculite too moist. If you're using just vermiculite I'd suggest mixing in some perlite.

>>At first I misread "Easter Eggs". Congratulations on a fine clutch and your diligance. Looks like more than 100 Eastern hatchlings will be emerging around the country to add to the captive population. In your photo it appears that eggs are in vermiculite. In the past I've had some indigo eggs swell up too much or burst because I had vermiculite too moist. If you're using just vermiculite I'd suggest mixing in some perlite.

Steve, yes they are in vermiculite. How much perlite would you suggest?
Someone else told me that I should keep the vermiculite on the dryer side. He told me that if it clumps when I squeeze it, it may be too damp.

I have always used a fairly damp vermiculite with other colubrid eggs but if this is a problem for indigo eggs I certainly do not want to do it.

Thanks!

Eric

This year I've mixed vermiculite and perlite about 1:1 and then added water. Will add a little water to each box if it seems too dry. How have others set up eggs? The ECCM would add to work at not letting eggs get too warm. A few years ago many breeders kept getting some hatchlings with kinks and coming out in 90 days or so because incubating temps were too high. Temps in the mid-70's will give larger perfect hatchlings after around 120 days.

Ive set mine up with slightly moist verm but will add some perlite also. Too moist and the eggs will swell up,too dry
of verm and it will pull needed moisture from the egg. I tend to agree with a breeder that says that the eggs dont need to be in contact with a moist substrate until the second half of incubation as long as the humiditys close to 99 percent.
They will get the moisture from the air. The second half
they have to be on moist substrate. So far this has worked
for me. I try to keep the eggs between 72 and 74 but have
minor fluctuations here and there. Day 28 and all 26 are still
going strong. Fingers crossed,of course!

Hey Steve,

how've ya been? I'd like to recommend what has always work best for me.....keeping the eggs above the substrate altogether by placing the eggs on a medium that affords them complete aeration as well as full exposure to humidity w/o the worry of too much moisture absorption.

Here's what i do:

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Very Cool!

lucky man!

Congrats! 100 days drags on for sure. Set a goal to lose weight or pretend you are back in school and have a big paper due in 100 days and the time seems to pass a little faster : )