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Info Silversided Butterscotch Burmese ?

KBuckler Apr 28, 2011 10:43 PM

The Silversided Butterscotch Burmese was supposedly proven Genetic several years back.

Anyone have info on this project?

Current Owner, new pics, market price?, how many people are in on this project?, Etc..........all info basically.

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Replies (10)

PythonEugenics Apr 29, 2011 11:35 PM

I'm fairly certain I saw that specimen for sale years back by Michale Cole, and I believed it was called the "Camo", but I could be off on that.

Tom_Reagan May 01, 2011 10:21 AM

The picture on the right is the original lone female that was imported around 2003 from Indonesia. From that time, the animal has always been called the "Silver Sided / Butterscotch". Chris Mcquade at Gulf Coast had the female and worked to get her acclimated. He raised up the offspring and bred the males back to mom and proved the trait as an inheritable trait in the spring of...2009, maybe it was just last year...can't remember. The unique thing about this animal is that she is probably the only dwarf morph ever seen. She was imported from the same area as the dwarfs and she has many of the same personality of a dwarf. I have seen pics of her as a mature adult coiled under a cat litter pan and at the time, a large rat would have been a decent meal for her. He would have all the info about this group and where it went, or if he still has it.

Hope that helps.
-Tom
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joshhutto May 01, 2011 10:30 PM

Tom is correct with that info and having seen the original and the baby produced and the hets, I would have to say this is truly a dwarf morph with the founding female less than 9 ft still at this time. Any other questions you can aim toward GCR and they can answer them with the most accuracy.
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Josh & Krysty Hutto

Various Ball Pythons, boas, dogs, cats, fish, a couple sulcatas and a few other odds and ends.

a BAD dog is MADE not bred, support the American Pit Bull Terrier as the greatest breed of dogs on Earth!!!!!

Kelly_Haller May 02, 2011 11:06 AM

The python on the left appears to be showing considerable P. molurus molurus influence.

Kelly

joshhutto May 02, 2011 09:56 PM

unless an Indian python swam to the island that the original was imported from, there can be no indian influence in that morph. It's a shame for those that haven't seen this morph yet, it truly is stunning.
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Josh & Krysty Hutto

Various Ball Pythons, boas, dogs, cats, fish, a couple sulcatas and a few other odds and ends.

a BAD dog is MADE not bred, support the American Pit Bull Terrier as the greatest breed of dogs on Earth!!!!!

Kelly_Haller May 03, 2011 06:20 PM

Unlikely that it's ancestors swam or rafted to any islands, as it would most likely have been isolated there at the end of the last glacial period by rising sea levels between 12,000 and 15,000 years ago. How far is this island area from Sri Lanka and southeastern India?

Kelly

ArtInScales May 04, 2011 12:18 AM

If they are from the same island as the dwarfs they came from Indonesia, somewhere around Celeb.
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Kelly_Haller May 04, 2011 11:20 AM

Thanks Randy. I thought that might be the case, however the pattern on the one in the left photo is much different than the pattern on any of the dwarf forms that I have seen. P. molurus molurus from southeastern India and Sri Lanka have patterns very similar to this specimen. Also, what is the relationship between the two photos at the beginning of this thread? Those two base patterns are quite different as well. Thanks,

Kelly

joshhutto May 05, 2011 09:43 AM

Kelly,

my comment of swimming was sarcastic in response to the thought that there might be indian blood in those animals. Unless the founding female was an indian cross from the wild where Indian's don't exist there could be none in them. As far as the relation to the first 2 pics, the one on the left was the animal that GCR produced from het to founding mother and the one on the right is the founding mother. I will say again, if you have any questions and you want them answered from the source of the project, give Chris a call.
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Josh & Krysty Hutto

Various Ball Pythons, boas, dogs, cats, fish, a couple sulcatas and a few other odds and ends.

a BAD dog is MADE not bred, support the American Pit Bull Terrier as the greatest breed of dogs on Earth!!!!!

Kelly_Haller May 07, 2011 03:39 PM

Thanks for the info. It would be interesting to see the male that was used to produce these hets. I wasn't certain whether you were joking or not. Many people think that rafting is a major process of biological distribution to isolated locations, however, most of the these isolated populations are where they are due to fluctuations in sea level elevations over thousands and millions of years.

Kelly

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