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Hello,

I recently found an anerythristic and hypo-e texas ratsnake listed online and am curious if anyone has any additional information about these morphs. I have not seen them previously and am curious if they are simple recessive or line bred traits.

Texas rats are really under appreciated I think. I wish more people where working with them.
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Kyle

Common sense is genius dressed in its working clothes. - Ralph Waldo Emerson

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Yeah, the hypo-E (hypo-erythristic) animal that Allen Sheehan is working with is genuinely authentic. The original animal might probably be more accurately termed a "paradox axanthic" animal since there are a couple of orange/yellow scales on it, but otherwise it is TOTALLY void of ANY yellow or red pigments and is all black/gray and white.

He is working with several really nice morphs and phases of Texas Rats. Lavender, hyper-erythristic(over-abundance of red pigment), and also has a "hyper-xanthic" animal as well (over-abundance of orange/yellow pigment).

Anyway, yeah, those are really nice, and you certainly won't see those on everyone's table at a show,...guaranteed!..LOL!..

~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

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Thanks Doug!

I have been emailing back and forth with Allen to get more information about them. I was just curious why I had never seen them before now. The hypo-e animal on his website looks amazing! As does the anery. I wonder if there is something special in texas rats, the leucy genes also produce a fair number of animals with paradox spots. I love genetics!
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Kyle

Common sense is genius dressed in its working clothes. - Ralph Waldo Emerson

http://scaledvertebrates.weebly.com/

Yeah, I definitely know what you mean, ....genetics can be absolutely bizarre sometimes!!

~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

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"Paradox Axanthic" I like that Doug. I think I might steel that name. LOL

Here is an old picture of that girl. She sure has fristrated me while I have had her. She is the most finicky wild caught snake I have ever worked with. She only eats about every 4-5 weeks. Its amazing to me she was able to produce viable eggs.

Alllen Sheehan

That's a cool picture Allen!

You can really see the paradox scales in that one!

I'm excited for these genes to be mixed in with the other Texas rat simple recessive genes!
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Kyle

Common sense is genius dressed in its working clothes. - Ralph Waldo Emerson

http://scaledvertebrates.weebly.com/

Yea she a good looking girl. Its really hard to capture what is going on with her in pictures. And even looking at her in person I am not sure what it is that is at work with her genetically. And maybe I am seeing what I want to see but I think there is something difference about her first generation offspring as well. Time will tell however. Attached is another picture of her. You cant see her colors but she has irregular patches of orange and yellow?? The Nose rub is healed up but she will to this day have nothing to do with a tub of any kind. She spends her days hidden at the bottom of a wood pile that sits inside a 100 gallon aquarium... Anything smaller and she rubs her nose. SPOILED!! LOL. She is my resident princess.

Allen

Heck yeah man!, I cannot think of a specimen more worthy of the descriptive term "paradox axanthic". It is 100% accurate by definition in every way possible.

Yeah, I know what you mean about having some goof-ball finicky snakes with unique feeding quirks in the collection. You are not alone there pal..LOL!

Have you tried different types of rodents with her?, like rats insted of mice, or vice versa, or maybe ASF mice, etc..or even different hair colored prey instead of white hair, tried dark haired rodents. I know it sounds weird, but an older wild snake might have some old habits she is really used to, ya never really know..

Maybe some good supplementation with some frozen chicks just might be the ticket too, who knows. Being as how Texas Rats can be very arboreal and nest raiders, etc....

Anyway, best of luck with her and the others, that thing is awesome man!

~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

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Oh you would not believe what I have tried with this girl. And if I had to be honest I think some of it is my doing. As you know I got her from Max Peterson as a wild caught on his land in North Texas. Well when I got her she was a little finicky but not to bad. Well the summer was winding down and I wanted to put some good weight on her for the spring so I could get good healthy eggs. So one day I offered her a rabbit fuzzy as one of my small retics would not eat that day. She immediatly ate it like she had never eaten before. So a few days later I gave her another one and the same thing. I figured heck I am going to give her what she wants to eat at least she will gain weight. Well she did eat good and gained weight. Well guess what? That is the ONLY thing she will eat now. I breed fancy mice and rats and have every color under the rainbow. I have a freezer full of chicks and she turns her nose up at all of them no matter the color, live, or frozen. So know I am finding myself in the same situation. I am going to start giving her rabbit fuzzies every 4-5 days for the next 6 weeks to get some fat back on her so she is ready for brumation and possibly eggs next year. This snake has not eaten a rat or mouse in almost a year after attempts every few days. I have even tried scening rats with rabbit and the whole mess involved with that. She looks at me as if to say "forget it man just give me the rabbit" Her cage has branches and all kinds of fun stuff. Her cage thing is fit for a zoo. She will on occation come out and pirch under the light but for the most part she lays under her log pile waiting for me to toss her a rabbit. I love her anyway!!! LOL

Allen Sheehan

Allen Sheehan

LOL!!!,.....WOW!, enough said there for sure..HAHA!!

What a stubborn little "princess" she is!

Rabbits it is I guess..

~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

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