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Some future breeders. Both are really interesting species and do well if set up properly. Western Green (senticolis triaspis) and Rhino (rhynchophis boulengeri)Ratsnakes.

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Randy Whittington

Nice Northern Green Rat (Senticolis triaspis intermedia), Randy! Any locality data on it? Mine are from Mt. Hopkins in the Santa Ritas.

Also nice rhinos - I have some of those too, and more on the way...

I love green snakes!
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-Toby Brock
Southwestern Center for Herpetological Research

Mt Hopkins Rd.
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Randy Whittington

Cool! There seems to be a lot of Mt. Hopkins Santa Ritas greens around.
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-Toby Brock
Southwestern Center for Herpetological Research

I wasn't thinking while typing. That should have read Northern Green Ratsnake.
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Randy Whittington

Excellent stuff Randy!........I was fortunate enough to handle some rhino's at the past Daytona show, and their pliable snouts were most interesting..LOL!

The guy told me they can move the direction their "horn" is pointing (up or down) to some degree depending upon mood and/or conditions which I thought was very interesting too..

Have you personally seen any of this yourself too?

~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

serpentinespecialties.webs.com

Thanks Doug.
I'm not sure I understand what your asking about how their movement relates to their nose appendage. I can't say that I've personally noticed any paticular way or direction they move in relation to their nose appendage. The enclosures I have them in right now don't allow me to watch them moving around in a relaxed state. I only see how they move when I'm moving them to clean their cage or something so I don't know if they move differently when cruising for food or otherwise.
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Randy Whittington

I think I read it the way you did at first Randy, but I think what he was saying is they can change the direction the horn is pointing--so the horn itself can point up, down, left, right, etc.

I thought he mean they would move in the direction the horn is pointing, until I reread it.

OH, I got it.
Doug I would find it suprising that they would have muscle control of their "horn" but definatly don't know for sure. I've seen ones before that their horn was permanently turned to one side possibly due to trying to repeatedly escape their enclosure and they were unable to correct it which would lead me to think if they do have any control, it is extremely minor. Maybe someone that has had them for a long period of time that have observed them a lot can add their observations here.
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Randy Whittington

Randy, Mike and Doug,

I have had a pair for a little more than a year, and I have never seen them move their "horns" independently. It is pliable, especially when young and it will stay bent back for a while if they press their faces against the tub walls. It eventually goes back to normal in my experience. Rob Stone, who I got mine from, has never said anything about them being able to move their horns, and I never even thought to ask to tell the truth.

My male a year ago...

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-Toby Brock
Southwestern Center for Herpetological Research

I love both of those species and yours are great looking. I'm in the process of acquiring a pair of Rhinos myself. Best of luck with them.
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Matt Kauffman