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Parentage Question Kenyans

Saracen Nov 03, 2011 04:57 AM

Hi guys my Albino gave birth yesterday to 5 Albinos,3 Snows,5 slugs and 5 stillborn/deformed. She had been with an Albino male and also a young snow male. My question is, is the Snow the father and does that mean the female was het Anery and Snow?
Also what could be a factor in the non viable neonates. These are kept on a rack system ans two 100% het Anerys have given me 27 neonates with no slugs at all. Lastly, what would that make all the neonates

John

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SandBoaMorphs Nov 03, 2011 12:35 PM

Your albino female is het for anery.

If the albino male is het for anery than he could of been the father, if you are sure he is not het for anery than the snow must be the father.

What rack system do you use? Does it have belly heat? What temperature did you keep her hot spot throughout pregnancy?

What age is your albino female? Was this her first litter?

All play a factor in still borns....what age were the males? Had they bred before? I find my younger males don't produce as much sperm as my older ones and I get more slugs...I also find if I over breed a male the same happens.
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Saracen Nov 04, 2011 03:41 AM

Hi Mark,

I bought the Albino male as an 08 and het Anery,the female is an 09 with no known hets. It was indeed the females first litter.

The rack is just a basic rack with belly heat in the form of heat mats controlled by a pulse proportional thermostat, the hot spot was 95 degrees. The female was indeed on the bottom of the rack getting me to assume she may have been a degee or so cooler.

Two other het Anery produced a litter each without any slugs or still borns on the same rack. it was their first litter also, they produced the following;

Litter 1 ....15 neonates....4 Anery....11 66% het Anery
Litter 2.....12 neonates....7 Anery.....5 66% hey Anerys

I suspected the male was not viable as two other females he was with failed to produce. His weight at mating was 54 grms and an 09.
The females weight at mating was 565 grms.

As I am not well up on the genetic side of things could you tell from this information what hets the Sire and Dam are.

Can I assume that the neonates are both het for Albino and Snow and also Anery?

Thanks for your imput Mark, this is a learning curve for me as it is my first time breeding Sand Boas.As a matter of interest what temps on the belly heat do you keep the neonates,mine are around 95 degrees at present. A few have fed but many have not hoever I am not using live.

Regards

John UK

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