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Hi Folks,

here are pics of my new melanistic-phase L.m.thayeri male,"made in germany 2008"...

another pic of "Darkness"

and finally the new male with my melanistic female"Blacky"(Germany 2007)...

...so now you know what i want to produce next season!something dark...lol

regards,
Michael

Congratulations and good luck!
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...

Thank you John!
and next months i wanna hear you scream:"WELCOME TO TEXAS!"

Very Cool,
something you don't see very much.
Bob B
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R.Bichlers Colubrids
http://www.webspawner.com/users/rbichler/index.html

Thank you Bob!

And melanistic thayeris are rare here too!

I guess a bright yellow hatchling would be unlikely

I hope only for jet-black thayeris...if something yellow would hatch i will try to wash-off the plack-paint from the male...

yours

Michael

Hi, a couple questions.

I have heard there are some Lloyd Lemke bloodline melanistic thayeri still in Germany. Are these Lemke's?

Do you know what their parents and/or siblings looked like?

Is there any discernable pattern underneath the black?

Very cool snakes, thanks for sharing.
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Hi Aaron,

the female shows black markings like a leonis-phase and the male shows small black lines like a pinbanded, so they are not jetblack.

Write me a mail and i can sent you the pictures in higher solution(4272x2848 pixels,5 MB each, but they don`t show the pattern much better)
Maybe my wife can take some close-ups with macro-objective...but the snakes are in brumation now.

I have heard about melanistic thayeris from the old Lemke-line too, but I cannot answer your question now.
At the next Hamm-reptile-expo I am meeting some persons who can help with the history of my melanistic thayeris.
( I know who produced my thayeris...)

The parents of both are melanistic and produced only melanistic offspring, some tests have shown that this melanistic-phase works rezessiv.

Hope that i can post some info about my black-thayeris mid december.

Thanks for your reply,
yours
Michael

I believe the gene to be recessive as well.....

I have 2.1 that will be going next year and 1.1 "hets".......

BTW......All of the melanistics that I have here on breeder loan from Shannon (Lemkes) have no identifiable underlying pattern whatsoever........

The younger ones I have had and seen do have an underlying pattern....both leonis and msp......
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...

Hi Micha,

can´t wait to see the animals when we meet again. The male looks very nice and it seems that he has a good size for a mal in that age. I think you will have success next year with that pair.
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Regards Malte

www.lampropeltis-alterna.de (german website)