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Some ratsnakepics from Finland

jarra Nov 22, 2011 03:55 AM

Some of my ratsnakedarlings here up north, if you like to see pictures

Texans..

Yellow..

Everglades..

Blackies..

corns..

Beauties..

I love them all..

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jarra Nov 22, 2011 04:06 AM

few more photos I found.. enjoy part 2

jarra Nov 22, 2011 04:41 AM

And here some of their terrariums at home

.. and some loving going on..

DMong Nov 22, 2011 10:10 AM

Nice snake collection,...and WOW!!, those are some incredible setups you have for them too!!..

~Doug
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mrkent Nov 22, 2011 09:00 AM

Those are some great pics! Nice snakes and homes. Thanks for sharing.
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1.1 Hypo (het lavender, striped) corn snakes, 2010
1.2 Gray-banded king snakes, blairs phase, 2008
0.0.17 Gray-banded king snakes, 2011
1.1 Oregon rubber boas, w/c 2000 and something

Colossians 3:17

Kevin Saunders Nov 22, 2011 01:17 PM

Great collection and fantastic setups! I especially like that big Everglades rat-wish I could find one like that here.

jarra Nov 22, 2011 03:05 PM

Thank you! I have something else here too... the other love of my life, Lampropeltis.. May I present, the other gang:

L.t.sinaloes

L.m.greeri

L.t.polyzona

L.g.californiae

L.t.stuarti (?)

L.alterna blairi

L.t.hondurensis

L.g.nigrita

L.g.n with distinctive splendida-blood..

DMong Nov 23, 2011 02:50 AM

Very nice stuff!....now you are REALLY talking my language with the Lampropeltis!..

BTW, that is a VERY nice textbook phenotype L.t.stuarti specimen!!. Do you have any origin history?, or locality data on that particular snake?. Anyway, you'd be hard pressed to find a better looking L.t.stuarti specimen ANYWHERE!..

Check out my photo gallery and you will see just a few......

http://serpentinespecialties.webs.com/apps/photos/

~Doug

Female Outer Banks king (L.g.sticticeps) with her clutch

them hatching

Sinaloan milk

Adult female extreme hypo

Green Florida king

golden/bronze Florida king

Awesome "high-yellow" L.g.floridana. Sire to above green female and golden/bronze floridana

extreme hypo male

tricolor hypo Honduran milk

Blanchard's milksnake (L.t.blanchardi)

vanished amelanistic Honduran

Female L.g.splendida

Aberrant/striped male Outer Banks king

South Florida Mole King (L.c.occipitolineata)

Mexican Black king (L.g.nigrita)

female ghost Honduran milk

female extreme hypo Honduran

male Mandarin Ratsnake (formerly E. mandarina)

female Brazilian Rainbow boa (Epicrates c.cenchria)

female 50-50 Cal. king (L.g.californiae)

Big 8 plus foot female Colombian Boa

Lavender and hypo lavender cornsnake hatchlings

amel nelsoni sired by t-plus nelsoni

wild-caught whacky aberrant corn captured near Everglades National Park.

F-1 locality-specific t-plus "moonshine" greenish ratsnake (natural intergrade Black x Yellow rat)originating from Horry county, S.Carolina

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jarra Nov 23, 2011 04:06 AM

OHHH.....

... I'm in love.

What a great collection You have, and what gorgeous snakes!!!
You really shouldn't have shown them, now I need more space to get some of those beauties too..

The Stuarti was actually sold to me as L.t.hondurensis (via Swedish animal store, with no papers and no information of the origin - I only know they import many snakes from Southern Europe, Germany etc..). I thought it was very different from my hondurensis, and identified it as a Stuarti by photos I found on the internet. I seem to have had lots of good luck with my snakes, as well as bad (as with the everglades-hybrid..). It's a shame though, that they are here so far away from you other hobbyists and possibilities to breed them, and make sure their good genes go on - especially with the red everglades.

Here one more pics for you to be sure of the Stuarti.

DMong Nov 23, 2011 11:48 AM

LOL!!,....thank you very much for the kind words.. Those are just a few in the collection.

Yes, I am on the very "same page" with you on keeping things as genuinely authentic to species and subspecies....be it normal wild phenotype or morphs. Adding other types to their genetic equation just isn't ever a thought with me and my close circle of snake friends.

Yes, even though you don't have any locality data on that particular snake, it keys-out meristic-wise in every single small detail as a PERFECT textbook examle of L.t.stuarti!!

As you probably already know, almost anything with triads(rings of three) and a snout band is generally considered a "Honduran milksnake" by most people in this hobby due to the ignorance of not knowing the differences whatsoever. I have been studying and examining the Latin American forms for decades now, and have become very familiar with all the key features that set these subspecies apart from one another. Most pure genuine forms that have ever been brought in and known to exist in this hobby have all but gradually disappeared into the "hobby Honduran" melting pot, and are typically multiple genetic composites of several subspecies, of course some more than others. I explain about this in great detail on my web site too on the home page entitled "Honduran Milksnakes in the Hobby"....

http://serpentinespecialties.webs.com/index.htm

Anyway, I'm very glad that you are interested Lampropeltis as well as the other cool stuff you posted too, just as I am.

If you ever want to correspond about anything regarding these snakes and other colubrids, by all means feel free to do so. You can PM me from my above username(in blue text)and I'll give you me email address.

In any case, nice polyzona and stuarti you have there, along with the other nice stuff you posted!

recent extreme hypo Honduran hatchlings

BTW, If you contact Gerritt Burnsy of Germany, or Christos Skliris of France, you could find some very cool stuff such as these tyrosinaise positive chocolate albino Nelson's milks that are 100% authentic, as well as tons of other cool genuine stuff they have and also know about. I know for a fact that Gerritt is VERY much into all sorts of Lampropeltis!!

Here is a juvenile F-1 locality Everglades Rat to help keep it on topic, as well as two wild-caught Yellow Rats I personally captured a while back.....sorry for getting off topic earlier everyone..LOL!

Here is the gorgeous male I caught in 2005 and was very thin at only 97 grams.....

Same snake much later on at around 780 grams!.....

Female adult I captured about 10 miles apart from the above male...

A female leucistic Texas Rat I used to have but have since sold.....

cheers, ~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"


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jarra Nov 23, 2011 11:17 PM

Hei Doug, makes me smile how surprisingly alike we are with lots of things with snakes. Thank you again for the information.

I'll send you PM.

DMong Nov 24, 2011 02:53 AM

Sure thing Jarra!..

~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"


serpentinespecialties.webs.com

monklet Nov 23, 2011 09:29 PM

I'm just blown away, what an extremely awesome rack! Monster high quality ...the polyzona is so cool ...as is the mongus sinaloan! Yikes! )

btw, what's kind of king is that last pic?
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monklet Nov 23, 2011 09:32 PM

...as for the King, you even had caption ...scratch my question. ...but, I'd love to see more pics of that animal.
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jarra Nov 24, 2011 12:00 AM

Hei there! I visited your sites and you too have beautiful beautiful snakes. Benazir the Diadem ratsnake is absolutely gorgeous, and T-Bone too. It's so nice you have named the snakes, I also do that.

About the kingbaby you asked. She was born from a solid black German-born breeding couple of nigritas (well, the female had a red dot on her butt). There were some solid blacks and some of these in the clutch. As a baby she was very colourful but started to turn black very soon. I don't have her anymore, didn't want to use her for my other nigritas which get only black babies.

Here some pics for you of the colour change.

.. after 1 month of colour change

(and here one of my own babies)

monklet Nov 24, 2011 09:06 AM

Hey, thanks for the nice compliments on my snakes. Yep, love the Diadem and the T-bone! btw, I'd love to have some of your collection represented there too, I'd even get ya set up. Let me know if you'd be interested.

Otherwise, fascinating stuff about the nigrita. Are you sure that is pure? Interesting about the red dot ...never knew that could happend in that race. Those pics are great too. Thanks much!

Brad
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DMong Nov 24, 2011 02:35 PM

Yeah, many splendida and nigrita can very typically have pink or light colored anal plates. Both of my splendida and many nigrita I have had in the past also have pink anal plates that otherwise have very dark bellies and/or some form of speckling.

~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"


serpentinespecialties.webs.com

monklet Nov 24, 2011 09:41 PM

Thanks Doug, good to know
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jarra Nov 22, 2011 03:18 PM

And some other snakes too (not so very ratsnakes, but darling pets anyway)

(..also had lizards, but no more, enough work with the snakes. Want to see pics of them too?)

monklet Nov 23, 2011 09:43 PM

Great pics of great snakes! Yeah!
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Ameron Nov 22, 2011 04:23 PM

Special compliments on your Naturalistic vivarium setups. They not only mimic the snake environments, they are quite decorative for your home - giving a very natural, outdoors look that compliments your Home.

There really is no Right or Wrong when choosing a snake setup, I understand. For many breeders, or for persons with large collections, Naturalistic setups are just not practical. I only have 2 snakes, and I also use very Naturalistic setups.

In the next few days, I will post a link to Flickr photos showing my two biomes. One has 9 species of plants represented, and I often decorate with live plant springs. (Laurel and similar plants are easiest to use; they last long before wilting.) Post title will be something like:

Naturalistic Vivariums

Question: Are you sure that the Yellow is a Yellow? He has very orange colors, including eyes. Are you sure that he is not a pale Everglades, rather than a Yellow??

Your Everglades snake has some of the richest reds I’ve ever seen. No wonder you were disappointed with the Everglades/Gray intergraded that you had hoped to breed.

jarra Nov 23, 2011 02:12 AM

Thank you for the nice words!
Yes I love to watch my snakes and they are much more active in an environment with climbing possibilities etc. I try to fix them new settings every now and then to keep them active. The only problem is the floor material as it has to be easy to monitor and to keep clean.. So i't not very naturalistic. I use bark chips for most of them, peat for the moisture-needing ones and pellets for the large ones.

I would love to see your naturalistic snake terrariums! Here one more pic, this is an aquaterrarium with some aquatic frogs. I also have a mist-maker in there and a nice mist curtain on top of the water, but it's not on at this pic.

About the Yellow: I don't know, I have alwayst thought of him as a Yellow because he is so different from the red Everglades male. Here a couple of more pics of the boys together to show the difference. I housed the big boys together in a large terrarium for a couple of months last winter, to observe their natural behaviour (I'm a biologist so I'm interested in this)(and yes they did fine, no aggressions or stress symptoms what so ever). Here they are:

the difference in eye colour

(this was not the big terrarium but a smaller place to introduce them to another)

Oh, if he is an Everglades too, I would love to know the magic words to swift the sex to a female instead.. hee hee..
There are not so many ratsnake-keepers here in Finland and not many snakes either so it's really hard to find a female for the everglades. I know there are a few in Sweden but not for sale, so at this time I have to wait for a future baby from them.. Or go and seek the european markets. It's kind of lonely up here north.

monklet Nov 23, 2011 11:03 AM

Great pics, beautiful snakes. The black rat is huge ...or that is a very small hand ...wow!
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DMong Nov 23, 2011 11:57 AM

You ain't kiddin'!,.......a real "beast"!..

~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"


serpentinespecialties.webs.com

jarra Nov 27, 2011 01:32 PM

Yeeee..! Finally the long waited true Bairdi arrived from Sweden. This tiny boy is very thin and hungry, think he hasn't gotten much food earlier. (It is supposed to be 2 years old). Friend of mine named him "Pluto"

So, meet Pluto:

jarra Nov 27, 2011 01:46 PM

And here, some new pics I just took. Just for fun to share.

DMong Nov 27, 2011 05:38 PM

Very nice, Jarra!........have fun with your new Baird's as well!..

~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"


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