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LEWISI HYBRID AVAILABILITY

zell Dec 28, 2011 11:55 AM

WHO HAS THE NICEST LEWISI HYBRIDS AVAILABLE???

Replies (11)

Paradon Dec 28, 2011 10:30 PM

Probably Tom Crutchfield... I've been dying to get his Rhino for quite a while..

Manny Dec 29, 2011 06:40 AM

There are a few breeders with top of the line lewisi Hybrids. I myself is one of those breeders. Other breeders are Tom Crutchfeild, and Sam from Florida Iguana and Tortoise breeders.

typherp Dec 31, 2011 03:19 PM

Who has the best lewisi hybrid?

This is a loaded question and there is no simple answer. I am assuming the question is specific to "the blueness" of the animals. In the past few years, I have acquired close to 100 crosses. my experiences are as follows:

1) Regardless of how blue they are, they are all beautiful in their special and unique patterns and colors.
2) There are wide range of "blueness" in the pure, wild populations of lewisis.
3) In the USA pet population (more than 1000????), Tom, sam and Manny has the reputation of having the "best" lewisi crosses and I have bought from all three.
4) All three do have the "best" lewisi crosses; they also have "not so blue" lewisi crosses for sale.
5) All three are honest enough to tell you the quality of the animals and they will be prices accordingly---typically between $200 to $1000 for babies and up to $20,000 for adults.
6) I have also purchased from other breeders, from known whole sellers, from kingsnake ads, from Faunaclassified ads, at the expo, from Craigslist and from friends.
7) In above cases, high prices did not always follow the "blueness" of the animals purchase: some individuals that I have paid only few hundred dollars has turned out as blue as those I have paid thousands for.

JonScuderi Dec 31, 2011 10:00 PM

Unless someone has Pure Lewisis the babies will always vary. Genetics are a funny thing... I say the person with the best lewisi is the person who is lucky enough to produce a very blue Iguana with confirmation and head shape that most closely resembles a Full Blooded animal from a particular egg,,,its always egg to egg I dont beleive any one breeder produces the best and babies be bought sight unseen. Personally I dont even believe in judging from Hatchlings because you can never he sure of body confirmation and head shape which is a big thing if your looking for your Iguana to look like a lewisi and not a genetic freak hybrid with odd shaped head

zell Jan 01, 2012 02:24 PM

Thank you for the responses everyone I ended up with one from Tom from his best of the best ad. The father was very nice.

typherp Jan 01, 2012 10:22 PM

what did you get...a male or a female?

zell Jan 04, 2012 06:11 PM

I have no clue as to the sex. did you end up with its dad?

typherp Jan 06, 2012 10:52 PM

no.

zell Jan 07, 2012 10:59 AM

oh I thought You ended up with him guess I was wrong

drsam Jan 02, 2012 08:06 PM

I couldn’t agree more with Ty. Honesty is probably the most important component in buying a Lewisi.
It’s difficult to project in the future ultimately what that hatchling will look like some day.
But you have to be assured that at least you are truly getting a hatchling of the parent that is represented.
I have dealt with Tom along time and I have always found him honest.
I know TY and Manny and their reputations are at the top.

Like Ty said, there are differences between animals in shade of blue and how deep the color is, I see difference every year between clutch mates.
And Like Ty says, sometimes the Bluest parents do not have the bluest hatchlings.

But we all do it, we buy what we perceive are the best looking parents.
Color, Striping, body, size and head shape are all elements but first comes the breeders integrity.

Again I am going to agree with Ty, I have seen and bought animals that were dirt cheap and felt they were an outstanding animal, so price does not dictate quality.
One last thing, don’t give up on your animals to early; I have seen animals really change after a few years.
The time of the year, how hot they are and where they are in their shade all play a significant role in what that animal looks like.

Sam Pascucci
FITB

Paradon Jan 02, 2012 09:12 PM

Don't fortget...Diet also plays a role on how your animal looks too. If you feed them well and they are healthy, they look better for ya. And I find giving them some winter squash really brings out the color.

I love Cyclura and I hope to get one someday... IT's the last fronteir in herp keeping...the ultimate reptile any herp enthusiast should get.

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