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black rough necks

wldktrptls Jan 07, 2012 04:08 AM

Does anybody have any locality data for these guys? I've seen quite a bit ofcolor variation in the juviniles of this species, ranging from yellow or orange to green or blue. I've also seen adults that retained crossbands of yellow spots, though muted, still quite visible. With such a wide range one would think some sort of data would be accumulated by now. In light of the diminishing habitats and thusly vanishing populations of this outrageous monitor perhaps the time for such gathering of information is overdue. Any ideas as to where to look? Thanks, guy.

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manchild Jan 08, 2012 01:19 AM

I know what you are talking about as I have see it as well.But I only know of two different variation.The ones from Indonesia,which is the most commonly seen one in captivty.It is the one to become all black or grey.And the ones that are from Thailand they are the ones that will keep the banding in adulthood.You will rarely see them in the pet trade because I believe that they don't import from Thailand,but a few do get here illegally.As far as the different colors in Jarvis I just think its where they where collected from,and most of them usually are from Indonesia and when they mature they will turn out darker.Hope this helps.

Greg
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1.1 Varanus Rudicollis
2.0.3 Varanus jobiesis
0.0.1 Ornate box turtle
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0.0.2 Varanus Salvator

Paradon Jan 08, 2012 02:40 AM

People should start breeding them more so they don't have to go out and collect the wild ones... I hate to see them go extinct!

Paradon Jan 08, 2012 02:47 AM

Why can't we just band the imports and exports and still keep the ones we already have? As long as there is a market for them, they still will be collected. The problem is here...not over there...

wldktrptls Jan 08, 2012 06:52 AM

The biggest threat to these lizards, And most everything else extant on the planet, is habitat destruction. Also I doubt too many people are breeding these guys. I had a pair that produced a number of clutches(thanks frank) t he male always beat me to the eggs. Great lizards, certainly one of my favorite monitors. Anyone know where the turquois hued juviniles come from? My female was one such lizard, but alas no locality info to be had.....
guy

FR Jan 09, 2012 10:09 AM

Hi Guy, A couple of things, first thing I learned when seeing wild varanids was. They all really had a lot of variation from one area.

Here in the states, folks tend to PICK a color and pattern and call it a local type animal. Then pick another, and want it to be from another local, just because its a little different.

Again, in one spot, varanids vary from individual, and year to year. And from local to local.

Guy, remember that Saguaro you left here, well it laid on the ground for about a year, Then I stood it up, right there. Well the dang thing is now 4 1/2 feet tall and looking great.

So I get to see you(in that saguaro) everyday.

I hope to see you soon. Frank

wldktrptls Jan 09, 2012 05:12 PM

No, I read on the web that different color variatons mandate different locale of origin, so, sorry but I can't believe you because I read that other stuff first. Well, I guess you might have a point. But, varietion within a population? I just don't know....... I d love to swing out that way, gotta get my 4runner fixed first and that may be a little while, of course I could always rent a car......."sir, when you were pulled over, your car was packed full of illicit plants and oddly alluring exotic lizards of questionable origin..." glad the saguaro is thriving!
Guy

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