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Was driving up I5 through Gorman. Just curious, are the zonata in that region coastals or parvs or intergrades? Thanks.

Yawn.............this forum is dead. Looking at Hubbs book "Mountain Kings" it looks like that area is a bit of a mystery and could be an intergrade zone between three subspecies. (multicincta X multifacsiata X parvirubra)

On his range maps, it falls in the range of multicincta

Thanks. What is interesting is West of I5 the terrain is very much like coastal habitat (and looks mostly inaccessible). East it looks different, steeper. Was always curious about that area. A known parviruba locality is not very far away, making it even more interesting.

When I was a kid I went trail riding in that area with my older brother (back then you could go on any dirt road you saw). At a gas station right off the 5, they had a mtn king in a jar of alcohol. The man said it was a roadkill.

Cusp of an intergrade region.....West is multifasciata towards coastal Santa Barbara/Ventura and East is intergrade/Kern snakes if I'm not mistaken. Either way, if it's hit just right it's a win-win.
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Jerry Kruse

UPDATED!
www.zonatas.com

And God said, "Let there be zonata subspecies for all to ponder..."

>>Cusp of an intergrade region.....West is multifasciata towards coastal Santa Barbara/Ventura and East is intergrade/Kern snakes if I'm not mistaken. Either way, if it's hit just right it's a win-win.
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>>Jerry Kruse
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>>UPDATED!
>>www.zonatas.com
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>>And God said, "Let there be zonata subspecies for all to ponder..."

The zonata in the mountains near Gorman are pure multifasciata. Even the z's to the east in the Tehachapi mountains are pure multifasciata, becoming intergrades at Bear Mountain. Hope this helps.

Mitch

Well, I hope now that they moved all the sites into one group that the mountain king site will get some action!!! Hey Mitch!!!

Joe

Thanks Mitch, appreciate it. Interesting area there for sure.

The parents of these gems originated from close to there.

Bill