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I have had several people lately tell me that there are a bunch of people breeding niles. I was under the assumption that most niles were imports, and very very few were actually captive bred. I wanted to get my facts strait before saying anything. Thanks.

It's heavy bull[bleep], otherwise they wouldn't be sold for $15.

Yea I was pretty sure no one was breeding them, other than a random one here and there. Just wanted to make sure before and not argue on assumptions.

That is a very difficult way to think about that problem.

Niles are not and have not been bred in captivity with any regularity.

There is an occasional clutch/hatchling, every so often. But I do not know of anyone in the states that is breeding niles regularly.

The vast majority(99.99%) of niles out there are wild in origin, that is they come from countries where they occur naturally. Cheers

That's true of virtually all of the more inexpensively availible varanids is it not? Perhaps in part due to a vast majority of these imports being bought on impulse by people who have precious little idea of what's involved in their husbandry. Oddly enough this results in most dying long before reaching even their youngest possible breeding age thereby minimizing the likelyhood of sustained breeding groups of any number especially in reguards to the HUGE number imported. Maybe anyways might just be they need my new product I m introducing......NileBeBred! A secret compound comprised of all sorts of things V. niloticus finds irresistibly sexy(don't ask how I know). Hey FR! Good to see ya back. I know I still need to call you but cant....reach....phone.
guy

From what i've read it's trying to get decent prices or suitable keepers that prevents the next incubation of eggs.Large cheap monitors are just a lose lose-so my question,other than passion and love of a species why breed them-just producing them isn't a good reason.The only winner is the one buying the captive bred animal and the pride of the one breeding them.
I know that proper support for concurring breeding is important,there just isn't much incentive to keep producing.

Well...true the buyers will benefit as will the lizards as those aware enough to seek out a breeder are far more apt to make the effort to learn proper husbandry. But over time it may become more widely known the huge difference between CBB and imported. Of course one might do well to consider the effect of well maintained healthy monitors becoming more commonplace....this will fuel the idiots to buy the imports even more for as their moniker implies they ain't too bright and probably wont discern he difference at hand aside from how "dog tame" that [bleep]ing huge lizard is. Of course that whole concept is just the thing thato ultimately got most of us here one way o another.... And when such an idea becomes manifest before you making all too seemingly real and attainable people go shopping. Uh ohhh startn' to read like aPETA pamphlet.... and the point is? Try the new NileBeBred! Be the first in your herp club to stem the evil tide of varanid importation! But seriously while CBB wont impact Nile/sag imports until they run out it will establish breeding groups and train those keepers. And provide some folks with a better chance of keeping a healthy lizard. Sure raise the price there must easily be ni people who have killed their share of imports that realize paying a hundred for one of the few C BB specimens. Watch it'll happen. Of course we should just start catching neonatest in Florida and quell the whole issue of imports from here on out! Turn the invasion in to a cottage industry while eliminating non native mortally dangerous monsters from our suburbs! Just a thought or two....
Guy

Hello,

Not to confuse, but, anyone with a proper pair kept in minimally decent conditions can breed monitors... Producing eggs(especially repeatedly) and finally hatchlings is the hard part. Also, males will "breed" eachother as will females and so on. The statement may be accurate and yet still off, if you get what I mean. Best to You- Mike S