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but hypo or not this snake is pretty nice.

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I'm not sure if that snake is hypo but I agree it's exceptional.

To me hypo is when the parts that would normally be black are changed to a grayish, brownish, coffee or carmel color. If it's just got really thin black I just consider it to be reduced black, not a true morph.

Your snake has thin black but it looks like it might also have the black turning a lighter color. It's hard to tell because the black is so thin. The orange also looks really pale and that's also often a characteristic of true hypos that have orange or red in their pattern. I think it might be a true hypo but I'm not sure. The test IMO would be to breed it and if any of the babies come out with wider black borders that are of a lighter color than normal then it's a hypo.
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I agree mostly with Aaron; however, the individual has mormal black pigmentation on its head and in the deli-cup varieties, these are some shade of pastel as well.

I think it is a simply a washed-out pattered, normally pigmented, albeit likely rare, example of what does (or can) occur the local population genetics. The wild female also exhibits similar characteristics. That's my 2 cents worth anyway. Nice snake Colin, lucky you and good job.

You mentioned the head. Yes on the Dan Johnson hypos the heads have blue spots above the eyes when they're hatchlings. I knew that but I was thinking this might be a different line of hypos. However what you said made me look more closely at the snake and I noticed something actually quite obvious, the alternates. The alternates appear to be regular black pigment, so this is not a hypo IMHO. I was so caught up in the borders of the orange bands that I didn't notice the alternates. Still got to be one of the nicest Sanderson's produced though.
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to see the alternates. I figured its not a hypo, but the light color and reduced black seem to be heritable, just like any other trait. I do think its a pretty neat snake.

Very nice animals Colin!!! Would be pretty awesome if that trait can be duplicated through breeding.

Joe

I think it wille be, just take a look at his adult female, she´s also very light:
http://f1snakes.com/Resources/rwh2367lasanders.jpeg
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Nice snake but, I don't think it's a hypo. I have a W/C Sanderson that is similar.

are you talking about the W Sanderson you caught this year. I dont think its very similar, but it is a nice one from that cut.

>>are you talking about the W Sanderson you caught this year. I dont think its very similar, but it is a nice one from that cut.

Yes, that's the one. It's not quite as light as yours but, I would say it's similar.

Man Colin, that is a smoker! That whole clutch is nice, as I knew that it would be. I wish that you would have produced a few more males.

so where are the true hypos ? besides the u.k?

in desperate need of a male