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Hello,

A friend of mine recently had an albino ratsnake turned over to him by the owners. We were discussing what species it might be and I wanted to get thoughts/opinions from other ratsnake people here. I know that ratsnakes are hard to place into current species designations of the common NA species based on pictures alone but I thought it couldn't hurt to try. We think it is either a Texas rat or Black rat but even that is possibly wrong. The more I look at the pics the more I see black rat in it based on the colors and girth but I'm not sure as there are not a ton of pictures of albino Texas rat adults out there.

Anyway, what do you guys think?

Thanks,

Kyle

Pictures (quick cell phone shots I had my friend send me to post):

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Kyle R. Mara

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>>Hello,
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>>A friend of mine recently had an albino ratsnake turned over to him by the owners. We were discussing what species it might be and I wanted to get thoughts/opinions from other ratsnake people here. I know that ratsnakes are hard to place into current species designations of the common NA species based on pictures alone but I thought it couldn't hurt to try. We think it is either a Texas rat or Black rat but even that is possibly wrong. The more I look at the pics the more I see black rat in it based on the colors and girth but I'm not sure as there are not a ton of pictures of albino Texas rat adults out there.
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>>Anyway, what do you guys think?
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>>Thanks,
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>>Kyle
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>>Pictures (quick cell phone shots I had my friend send me to post):
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>>Kyle R. Mara
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>>Common sense is genius dressed in its working clothes. - Ralph Waldo Emerson
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>>scaledvertebrates.weebly.com/

snow corn to me....a plain old snow corn....

can't judge by size....color says corn.....face too....

.....?.....

(I gotta re-read the post again....LOL)......
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........JY

Hmm, you know cornsnake never even crossed my mind...Now that you guys mention it, it does look like a red rat.
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Kyle R. Mara

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Kyle,
I agree with the others in that the saddle count, shape, and color look like corn influence to me. Or possibly Emory rat influence. Maybe a hybrid of sorts. I would doubt that is either a Texas or Black pure animal.
Allen

Hey Allen,

After you guys mentioned it, I totally agree too haha. Corn snake never even crossed my mind because it wasn't surrendered as one. Still a very nice looking snake (and good temperament too apparently).
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Kyle R. Mara

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Most definitely not an amel Texas or amel Black Ratsnake. It looks to be a "frosted" snow, "Tequila Sunrise" (corn x gray rat) type hybrid snow of some sort in my opinion. All of which are "ultramel" corn x Gray rat lineage hybrids.

The very frosted voids in the middle of the blotch/saddles, the very yellow coloration, and lack of defined head chevroning and postocular striping behind the eye are all characteristic of these (corn x Gray rat) hybrids.

~Doug
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