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Baby subocs!!!

TenorGoddess Jan 09, 2013 08:16 PM

Howdy all!

These are my first colubrid eggs, but my 2nd snake eggs to hatch here (others were Calabars).

Thus far, 2 babies have pipped and as far as I can tell from the wee lavender heads, they are both Axanthic Blondes!

The father is Simon, a Blonde 100% het Axanthic. The mother is River, an Axanthic Blonde.
Both gorgeous, awesome animals. This is my girl's first breeding and first clutch. No slugs, 100% viable eggs and her clutch size was 4 to start. Not bad at all. :D

First are picture (taken earlier in 2012) of Simon and River. These minions were GORgeous babies and turned out to be even more beautiful as adults.
I will shoot new photos after we move into our house. :D

Next photo is of River on her eggs when she laid them the morning of 10/22/12!
And last but not least, photos of the pipping eggs! Thus far, looks like two Axanthic Blondes (cute little lavender heads!). They are so precious!! More updates to come!

Kindest regards,

Amanda Rose

Replies (13)

TenorGoddess Jan 09, 2013 08:17 PM

Next photos! ;D

tbrock Jan 10, 2013 09:59 AM

Big congrats, Amanda! That is a great first colubrid clutch. Please post more pics when the babies are all out. The parents are beautiful!

I will be trying my hand at breeding this species for the first time myself, this year.
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-Toby Brock
Southwestern Center for Herpetological Research

TenorGoddess Jan 10, 2013 10:31 AM

Thanks Toby!

I will definitely post photos. One baby was out this morning, so in a little while after he/she has time to rest, I will get the kiddo out for a weight, birth photo and put him/her in a bin with some water and moist paper towels. :D
Eggs 3 and 4 have not pipped yet, but I'm sure they'll get the hint today.

I never thought I'd want to deal with snake eggs as I was paranoid years ago thinking "oh no, that sounds like too much can go wrong"...when really it's not that hard. In fact, I'm enjoying it a lot! It started with my leopard gecko eggs and then the joy and challenge of calabar eggs...immediately afterwards, my TPs decided they were ready to breed.

I really like this species. Beautiful, docile and extremely curious. Aside from learning the hard way (twice) that they are mega escape artists (lol), I've never had issues from the parents. They were gorgeous as babies and I'm so happy they grew into even more beautiful adults. I simply cannot wait to see their offspring.

I'll get pictures of the first baby Axanthic Blonde this afternoon!

Kindest regards,

Amanda Rose

tbrock Jan 10, 2013 01:12 PM

I'm looking forward to seeing more!

I can relate to a lot of that. My first snake clutch was several years back, with my local Thornscrub ratsnakes (meahllmorum) - and I have bred and produced several species of ratsnakes since then. But - even though I live in Texas, I never kept any subocs until 2012. I have liked them for a long time though, and finally got the bug to keep and breed them.

BTW, I have a baby pipping today too (will probably make a post later) - a Santa Rita Mountains locality Northern Green Ratsnake (Senticolis triaspis intermedia). Only one egg survived to hatching in this clutch, which is the second clutch of 2012 from that female, and the 8th captive clutch I have gotten since starting to breed intermedia in 2010.

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-Toby Brock
Southwestern Center for Herpetological Research

TenorGoddess Jan 10, 2013 03:25 PM

I will certainly post photos once they all come out (or at least have heads poking up lol). ;D

I can't wait to see your baby pipping!

Amanda :D

TenorGoddess Jan 10, 2013 11:44 AM

First baby was out and looking to get out of the incubator bin, so I took him/her out, got a weight of 10 grams, and some photos. What a little beauty!

The 2nd egg still has a peeing Tom in there (lol) and I candled egg 3 and 4 to see they have changed positions from where they were last night. Looking forward to more pipping!!

Amanda :D

tbrock Jan 10, 2013 01:12 PM

Great looking little suboc!
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-Toby Brock
Southwestern Center for Herpetological Research

TenorGoddess Jan 10, 2013 03:26 PM

Thanks! Really excited about seeing these kids out of the eggs as well as post shed. :D

TenorGoddess Jan 10, 2013 05:47 PM

Baby #2 is out of the egg. :D

Looks like a little Blonde 100% het Axanthic!
This kiddo weighed in at 12 grams and was the shy one in the egg (whereas baby 1 was content to let me shoot pictures while smelling me). I moved a bin closeby and heard the perlite moving, only to look down and see this cutie pie reared up, mouth open and striking. So cute!
Fiesty little bugger and I cannot wait to see him/her post shed! That gold coloration will be a knockout!

Amanda

tbrock Jan 10, 2013 11:52 PM

Looks great - congrats!
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-Toby Brock
Southwestern Center for Herpetological Research

tspuckler Jan 14, 2013 05:05 PM

Those are some great looking parent snakes and babies - congratulations!

Tim

glenbrooks Jan 30, 2013 01:27 AM

Congratulations on your new additions! Some great looking hatchlings from some great looking adults.

It looks like your adults are feeding on frozen/thawed mice. Do you ever have trouble getting them to accept f/t instead of live? I am hoping to get a pair like yours (silver blonde & blonde-het silver), but some subocs I had a few years ago were not very good feeders on f/t. What has been your experience?

Glen Brooks

TenorGoddess Mar 03, 2013 01:31 AM

Been a lot going on since I last wrote in.

On your question about f/t, nope. I've never had issues with them accepting frozen thawed. These kids love to eat. My adults eat f/t adult mice, unless River is preggers, then she gets a couple hoppers per sitting to not stress her system with developing eggs.

This is my first pair of TPs and their first babies, so unfortunately, I don't have any other information regarding getting them to accept f/t. I was told when I purchased them that they are very easy to get on f/t though, that most will take it as a first meal. My kiddos hatched JUST as we started moving into our first ever house, and at the same time, my mice decided to explode with babies, so I didn't even bother to try f/t yet. I am actually wanting to try it this next week so I will leave a note for myself to write back on here.

Thank you for all the kind words everyone. I have new pictures of all the babies on my website (constantly working on the site but it's coming along nicely).
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