Sorry to everyone for being off topic.

Dan
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Sorry to everyone for being off topic.

Dan
Got any hybino tangerine C.aspera Dan?..
cheers, ~Doug
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Of corse Doug, I'll get pics posted when I get a chance 
Dan
That ain't no tri-color - it's obviously a Copperhead.
Here's one of my pet "Copperheads."
Tim
P.S. - Nice Candoia

Ain't that one of them there Fake water cobras that build them big nests and attack folk?..

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Doug,
Nope, it's actually a baby Broad Banded Water Snake.
I've always thought they were cool "venomous looking" snakes.
And unlike some other water snakes, they don't get too big.
Tim
Tim, I was being very sarcastic with the humor. Yes, I know it is a Broad-Banded Water snake..
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Thanks Tim, & nice copperhead!
Man I love watersnakes! & thats a nice one! Broad banded? Midland? I've only ever had bandeds & diamondbacks, but I'm wanting to get into others.
Since we're showing non milk stuff I'll show one of my rattlesnakes

Dan
Is that an "official" morph? I've never seen one with a pattern like that.
Yeah, I got a couple of baby Broad Bands last year. I really like the "terrarium" type set-ups that can be used for garter snakes and water snakes.
Since you're a fan of diamondbacks, here's an especially deadly one that I found in southern Illinois a couple years ago (my first and only wild d-back).
Tim
P.S. - How do you get those baby boas to eat? I've seen a few at shows that were the offspring of wild-caughts, and they seemed the size of matchsticks. With all that variability, that's a snake that could "catch on" if it could be reproduced and babies could be raised without the need for lizards (my guess as to what they'd eat) as a first food.

Tim,
It is. Its a pastel sable. I have proven the sable to be recessive, & I am still working on figuring out exactly how my pastels work. Here is a pic of one of my pastels & a sable, see more on the hognose forum.

Dan Eby
I remember that picture, what an awesome find!
You are probably thinking of Indonesian tree boas, they are the smallest candoia. Viper boas are born big enough to take tiny day old pinkies, & I got them started on them by teasing them getting them to strike.
Dan
Water snakes are my favorites. I don't keep any because I don't feel I could optimally provide for them. What do you feed yours and what's its set up like? I'd ask in the water snake forum, but apparently the milk snake forum is more active for water snakes than that one 
I keep garter and water snakes the same way. With a light bulb on a timer for heat and on a diet of half fish and half rodents. The rocks are set up in layers with spaces, so there's a heat gradient.
Although I am a fan of Diamondback, Brown, and Plainbelly Water Snakes, they get too big to keep in a 20 long set-up (like the ones pictured below). Devoting a 40 gallon or larger tank for their set-up would be beyond what I'm willing to do at his time.
The nice thing about Broad Banded Water Snakes is that they look cool AND have a relatively small average adult size (22-36 inches).
Tim

Third Eye Herp
How many hold-backs did you end up with? All of them? LOL
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I still havnt even sexed them yet, so for now they are all holdbacks. They are all so nice I may keep them all.

Dan
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