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First let me start by saying sorry for the crappy pic in my last post. I'm going to post some better pics in this post. I think that it was you who were snippy before me. These pics are of him just out of Blue, not even shed yet. I hope you can see his lemon yellow (butter) color.

"And I still haven't. That snake is not expressing caramel at all. It looks like a pinstripe motley amel."

I don't pretend to know everyting and I don't think others should either.
The last pic is of a sibling that wasn't showing the amber trait.
He is a Striped albino motley bloodred amber Not because I say but because I bred for it. I never said he was hypo in my first post. hope these help and again have a great season. Thanks

all I can say is....you get all shades of red from the same clutch when using any gene...

as in --amel motley....light,dark,bright,and screaming red....

.....breed to find out....all you can do....

good luck....!!!!

(I have no ideas if amber is in it or not by looking either)
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........JY

I understand what your saying?
But then again red wasn't the color in question?
Was it?
I guess if you can't see him in person I see where
there might be doubt. Anyway It's not a big deal. I know
what I'm seeing.
Here is a fresh shed pic. hope you have a good season.

And caramel amel = NO REDS. None. You snake would look like a butter motley, not JUST have yellow. Pretty much all amels have yellow. That blatant red-orange shows your snake canNOT have caramel in it.

Here is a link to what butters look like. You snake should look like *those*, not like what you have.

http://iansvivarium.com/morphs/species/elaphe_guttata/butter/?sid=

What were the genetics of the parents of your snake? The fact that you do not know what an Amber is (hypo caramel) shows me that you do not have a strong grasp of corn snake genetic traits.

"And caramel amel = NO REDS. None."
This is Not true. Here is a pic of a hatchling butter off Ians site.It obviosly has red as a ground color see the orange.

"Here is a link to what butters look like. You snake should look like *those*, not like what you have."
An older butter from the same site.

It obviosly has red as a ground color see the orange.
"You snake would look like a butter motley, not JUST have yellow.
"Amber = caramel hypo..."
Here is a young Carmel from the same site.

It obviosly has red as a ground color see the orange.
Here is an adult carmel from Ians site.

See the orange and the yellow?
what you see as red in the pics is Orange in life,
What is true is that our debate has been educational and solidifies my belief in what he is...
Yellow is a dominant color and is enveloping his entire body.

Thank you. I hope God blesses you season.

That "caramel" you pictured is a normal. There were also 2 amels listed in the hypo butter section. People upload the wrong things.

There are different types of shades of orange. Caramels are specifically that: caramel colored. It's a browny-orange, not a red-orange. There is a difference to those. Amels are red-orange. Butters are yellow-brown-orange. Their orange can barely be called orange at that. It's more just yellow-brownish.

Here's a challenge for you, since you are so very very very very insistent:

Post your snake to Ian's vivavium forum. Post your snake at cornsnakes.com . Post your snake at the Reptile Forum UK. People there will tell you it's an amel motley, not homozygous caramel. Kathy Love, who literally wrote the book on corn snake care, would tell you that snake is not homozygous caramel. Rich Z, once the biggest breeder of corns would tell you that. Don Soderberg, the biggest current breeder would say your corn has no caramel. Carol Huddleston would tell you that snake has no caramel.

In fact, I'll post it for you at cornsnakes.com so feel free to head there and see the replies.

Mom = Amber Bloodred, Het Striped Motley.
Dad = Albino bloodres(fire)Striped Motley,
Het Amber. Thanks I've never been to those
sites.