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The Future of Anerys?

boidmorphs Apr 17, 2013 06:33 PM

My friend e-mailed me to let me know this male of mine was chosen as the "herp photo of the day!" He produced six anerys in his first litter and I'm working to see if this gene is compatible with the Sharp strain or not. If it isn't, this may prove to be a new line of "pastel anery" that actually improves with age.
I know there was a thread recently asking if all anerys "brown out" as adults. This picture taken last summer at 3 years old (he looks even better now) indicates the answer to that question is a resounding NO!
http://www.kingsnake.com/blog/archives/1242-Herp-Photo-of-the-Day-Rainbow-Boa!.html

Replies (7)

TenorGoddess Apr 17, 2013 06:57 PM

I miss that big guy.

I'm actually getting one of Greg's babies very soon. A lovely male anery (son to this very male). I attached the picture that Greg took. My kiddo is on the left. GORgeous babies period. I cannot wait to see him in person again!

I'll post photos once I get him. :D Soooo excited!

Kindest regards,

Amanda Rose

RainbowsByDesign Apr 19, 2013 02:09 PM

Are you calling this animals an Anery?
Does this appear to be res. or dom.?
do you have other photos of this animal and the "anery" off spring?

I think we need to hear more about this story. I do have a BRB that I am working to prove out that looked very "pastel" when it was a baby and is now very Anery looking but only time will tell what will become of this.
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John Wiseman
www.rainbowsbydesign.com

18.30 BRBs (as of 6-20-2012)
3.8 others

BoidMorphs Apr 19, 2013 07:00 PM

Hi John. Yes, there's little doubt in my mind that my adult male is an anery, which means his parents, that I obtained from Tim Frazier, are hets. If you go back and review my earlier posts here on this subject, you'll get a better sense of the history.
Back when you first posted pics of your (at that time) new acquisitions from a show, I wrote you to say I had an animal that looked similar in appearance to yours. At that time, I didn't know what I had. There's a juvie anery pic in the rainbow classifieds here at KS posted by "TC" that looks a lot like my anerys. While they may look similar early on, mine change in color becoming more pastel like as they mature.
The one that Amanda posted a pic of above is already looking outrageous having purple blue sides. If you look at the pic you'll see three different looking babies. One normal het on the right, one anery on the left, and one that I believe may possibly be a super form on top. It's way to early to know on that one. It may be just normal variations of anery within the litter.
There were three with this much lighter appearance, three of the other anery type, and four normal appearing hets.
I will write you privately when I get a chance.

brick1 Apr 22, 2013 02:38 AM

mmm, i understand where your coming from with the ideas, but i dont think its a Super form. Plus the breeding that you did, if this was a co dom gene, wouldnt give you a Super anyways.
IMO you have something along the same line as what i am working with. The plus i had, was that my breeding was from the visual x visual animals. While all babies looked anery at birth, about have of them are now starting to look like the yellowish anery that i predicted. I believe that these yellowish anerys, will breed true though. Ie they are genetically 100% a visual anery (just with something extra)

Its the kind of breedings that we are doing now, that will hopefully produce something really special....
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Dave

Ive given up counting how many rainbows i have, but its enough to deplete my credit card every rodent order....
Im an aussie in an arctic environment
Helsinki, Finland

boidmorphs Apr 22, 2013 06:22 AM

Dave, I agree with you 100%. I'll be glad if you do have something similar going on, if not exactly the same gene so Europe has a taste of it and we can collaborate our findings. In my second litter from the original parents, I had four babies that looked like their father. Then, when this male was put back to him mom, there were three like himself and three much lighter ones that looked noticeably different than the anerys that preceded them.
As I said, these three may just be normal variations within a litter that I haven't seen before, OR, is it something different as a result of putting the son back to mom? Time will tell when these are bred someday.
Please keep us updated with your findings and thank you for your input.

BoidMorphs Apr 19, 2013 08:32 PM

Well Cliff, it's not that anything got by Tim. He knew he had something really unusual, but like myself, since he'd never seen anything like it before, he had no clue what it was.
I had a great working relationship with Tim and, when I knew he wanted to get out of the business, I asked him if he'd consider selling me his bright yellow male brb. He said he'd love to, but it had died, after having escaped from it's enclosure in the dead of Winter (he kept his animals in heated cages in an unheated outdoor shed). He said it had sired a litter and he'd be happy to sell me a pair, which I jumped on hoping they'd show their dad's trait. Tim provided this pic of his male which is where my project's lineage got started.

rascal_rascal_99 Apr 23, 2013 02:42 AM

I don't agree with the whole "ugly brown" adult anery theory anyways, mine is a nice attractive burnt orange color.

As for this being the "future of anerys" I think it's cool looking and I'm all for having more and more genetics to mix and match with, that will go a long ways towards helping create a solid future in BRB's for all morphs...but it's still not a black and white adult any more than the Sharp line.

I do still wonder though and have the theory in my own mind, that the Sharp line may actually be axanthic and the Dave (Brick) line anery is actually anerythristic (or insert yours which appears to be possibly the same thing) and that combining the two lines may finally give us a black and white adult animal.

Then we also have the line of anery that Aubrey is starting to work with to throw into the mix also...one things for sure, there's definitely a lot of fun years of breeding to get this all sorted out!

Hope everyone has a great season!
Charlie

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