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A photo of my C. alfredschmidti hatching. I believe this may be a first in the U.S. A picture of one of my adults is on my website, link below.

FifeReptiles

Awesome job Jerry- I was checking out the pic of your adults a couple of weeks ago... outstanding species...
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Nice work! Congratulations. Thanks for posting.

I believe that you are not the only one who has done this before. Jon from jon`s jungle emailed me a pricelist of his available animals and it had both one group of defensor as well as alfredschmiti.

Very nice work. I believe you may be the first person to do so, unless it's been done some time ago. Some people have had wild caught alfredschmidti and defensors available but no captive bred that I've ever seen, unless they were from Europe. Hopefully with some luck I can hatch some Defensors in the next year or two. I would also love to work with Alfredschmidti one day.

Great to see

Good job and yes you are the first to breed and hatch Alfreds in the U.S. Smart of you to get pics to prove they aren't babies imported from Europe.

I believe there was a guy in Colorado probably 20 years ago that produced a clutch or 2. I will try to dig up the info on him. Can't remember his name off hand but he was not exactly mr. personality-that's about all I can remember about the guy. He actually sent me pics of the eggs hatching on slide film but those have long been lost. Last I heard he lost the female and had the male forever. And maybe Bruce Elfstrom may have bred them at one time.

Tom Greb

I think I know who it is. Was his last name Daugherty?

Yeah Jim Daugherty but now that I think of it it might have been defensor. Also Bruce Elfstrom was breeding yellow pectinata back in the late 70's early 80's.

Have you ever had contact with him. Man I sold him some carrot tailed chuckwallas one time and it was not clear when to ship so I called him and left a message that if I didn't hear from him I wasn't going to ship. Well I didn't hear from him until late the day I was supposed to ship. Actually I was still at work and my wife answered and he just came unglued on her because I didn't ship. He did apologize later as he said he thought I was trying to pull something on him.

Anyway I first met him through a good friend of mine, Richard Montanucci, in the late 90's and that was about the time I got the pics(defensor of alfreds) by mail as he does not do the computer thing or at least he didn't.

Maybe you can shed some light on this??

Tom

Hey Tom, sorry for the late reply. A lot has happened since the lkast time i visited the forum. Please call me when you get a chance. If you don't have my number, email me at mannysreptiles@msn.com and I'll email you my #.

Manny

Never heard of a guy in Colorado and I know for a fact Bruce never bred nor ever had any. Without pics or data hear-say is not good evidence.

I saw the pics from Jim's. Mark just because you never heard of it doesn't mean it didn't happen. Wasn't sure on Bruce. He had dwarfs when I visited him in New Mexico but wasn't sure of the species as it's been awhile. Man I remember back in the day you could get yellow pecs from the local pet store. The called them golden desert spiney tailed iguanas.

After reading that post that sounded a little harsh and I didn't intend it to be. I understand completely about without proof it is all just here say. Just don't want any hard feelings. Most of the time I talk toungue in cheek just to lighten things up and if you are reading and not seeing the expression it can sound very antagonistic(spelling). Did not mean it at all that way.

Did you know Bruce? I really didn't know him too well. I was at his place with someone else that knew him well on one of my trips out west. He had quite the collection of ctenos as far as I can remember. I think that was one of the first places I saw the yellow pecs. Ya know what I remember the most about his place? He had Sauromalus hispidus. Now there is a surprise eh? Anyway Mark I wanted to let you know I did not mean that to be as harsh as it read.

My apologies again.
Tom

lol, no sweat. I know bruce well. Business and other hobbies was making trying to keep an extensive lizard collection hard to maintain. He now runs a company that does off road expeditions in different parts of the world. He had a very old melanosterna that was one of his last ctenos he was trying to give me. Since I'm winding things down also, I referred him to Ty.

yes.....i get all the leftovers now

Regardless of if this is a first or not, great accomplishment and good to see that this specie is being worked with