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if a female t plus albino and a male that is t- or any other incompatible albino strain had a clutch together would the offspring be 100% het for both or will they be het one or the other? what would a third generation be ? super/double albino or would they show one of the two strains?

Or with incopatible hypos.....some one has done this, anyone know hiw it turns out?

Breeding two incompatable recessive traits,would produce "normal looking" double heterozygous in the first generation. In order to then have a shot at double homozygous animals,those would have to be bred to each other. As far as what they would look like phenotypiclly...I don't know...if anyone has done it, I haven't heard anything about it...a "super" is nothing more than a homozygote. If the heterozygous version of a specific trait is "normal", then the trait is catagorized as recessive,if the het. looks different from "normal",but doesn't resemble the homozygous version either then it is catagorized as "co-dominant". if you can't reliably discern het. from homo. but both clearly are not normal, the trait is dominant. This is a simplified version of basic principals that we use in the reptile hobby,there are sometimes exceptions,as well as grey areas,because we don't make the rules,we simply interpret the results as best we can in order to make sense,and try to predict the outcome in a given breeding trial...hope this helps,and makes some sense to those that are sometimes baffled by genetics.
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Well put and agree 100%.

I have done Applegates and Bechtel albino together and then double hets back together. Its a mess really and like you said hard to determine which is which bloodline after they been mixed. The double albinos look like a standard albino as hatchling but as they get older there blotches turn green.

Jason

Have any pics of that?

right thats how it squares out, and i figured a double homozygous snake of two genes that have a very similer but incompatible traits would mosetly look like one or the other but with a little of each. wich could be really hard to tell anyway. Jason that's crazy cool that you know that by the way. and thanks for saving me like 8- 10 yrs of trying it, just to come up with some albinos lol. im also curios if theres any photos out there. im not having any luck.... this question made me think of this one bull morph that is clearly some type of hypo and maybe multi homozygous. its a crazy multicolored beast with yellows, oranges and reds. i read on here somewhere that the guy seen them at an expo and the lady advertised it as a peanut butter and jelly bull or something like that. it kinda looks like hypo with some albino colors and black eyes. another guy had some listed on here not too long ago as hypos and the picture of the clutch had awesome variation, some of the babies really looked albino too! couldnt find any data on where it comes from or what morphs where in there? hope you guys know the type im talkin about? i will try to find a link to a pic..... does anyone know somebody who has already tried this with stillwater and trumbower lines? is that what makes a pb and j?

this thread was very similar and is about the beast in question? I think its multihomozygus, but what is in there? it cant be just hypos. an awesomer version of hybino.... maybe? they seem to show some T- colors to them... but that cant be can it? these are super high on my got to have list whatever they are!
http://forums.kingsnake.com/view.php?id=2001113,2001113

I have a few older pics but they are on my old computer and my site has some as well but its down temporarily.

I hear that the Trumbower and Stillwaters Hypos are non-combatable