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Here she is. She is about twice as light as the other hypos. I'm pretty sure this is the double homozygous Stillwater and Generic hypo. Honestly, not quite as impressive as I'd originally hoped, but she is gorgeous none the less. This pic was taken with no flash. It's interesting...it looks like the double hypo is reflecting light that the other isn't.

This project has turned out to be a blast and produce some amazing looking animals. I think next year I'll breed this years male to both females. I'd rather not have the albino gene in the mix from last years male. Obviously last years female still carries it, and there's the possibility that this years male will too, but those odds are ridiculous (to me anyway)that I was able to hold back a trio of het albinos out of a large clutch of possible hets. I guess we'll see!

Is this post shed?

I hatched a few lighter hypos this season but they were Trumbower not Stillwater with no chance of being doubles. I can't really tell yet but I also have a few lighter Stillwaters that popped out with the animal I posted in your tiger thread.

It would be interesting to see if it is the double. Is it a male? If it is, you could breed it to both lines and see if you get hypos from both.

This is post shed and unfortunately it is female. I think I've used up all my luck this season.

I wish you could see her in person. I'll have to sit down and come up with a plan of how to prove or disprove her. I'm with you in that I'm not 100% sold on her being the double hypo, but I'm 98% sure. Speaking in Mendelian terms, the ratio of the clutch are correct (with the exception of not producing a single whiteside other than the red-eyed ghosts) in producing a single double hypo. She is most definitely much lighter than any other hypo I've ever produced. Like I said, I wish you could see her in person.

As always, I appreciate your input.

Well, happy mistake. I remembered the tag being female, but when I got home to clean tonight, I looked and had it marked male. So I pulled it out, popped it, and low and behold it is in fact a male! This makes it much easier to prove out. I'll feed him well and breed him back to his grandmother and another bull that I've got that is 100% het for generic. That should prove or disprove what it is.

I've had so much cool stuff happen this season that I'm having a hard time keeping my thoughts straight. I've had a most incredible season, not only with the bulls, but with other species as well. Check this out:

1. The red-eyed ghost bulls were a surprise bonus.

2. The tiger patterned bull (oh yeah, a female ghost hatched out with nearly the same pattern!)

3. From an Anery Tessera to Ghost corn breeding, turns out they're both het for amel. I got two snow tesseras!

4. from anery tessera to anery stripe corn breeding, turns out not only is the tessera het for amel, it's also het for stripe! I got a couple Tessera Stripes.

5. from blood red corn to blood red corn, turns out they're both het for anery and amel. Got Fires (amel diffused) and Granites (anery difffused). I was hoping for the holy grail in the clutch to be an Avalanche (amel, anery, diffused) but it didn't happen. Not gonna complain.

6. From a five egg Het albino to Het albino ball python clutch, I got a pair of albinos

7. from a six egg clutch of het orange ghost to het orange ghost, I got a pair of orange ghosts.

I've got one more corn clutch to go and then a California King clutch. Don't know if I can take much more excitement. I took the last couple of years off (with the exception of breeding a couple of animals) because it was turning into more of a job than something I love. It was the best thing I could have done for myself. Though I didn't breed half of the animals I could have, I want to be careful not to get burnt out again. Gotta be selective but it's hard!

Congrats on all the stuff this year. that tiger bull is too cool. Maybe the double Hypo will change colors with age.

Jason

Thanks Jason. I appreciate it.

The hypo female I have is trumbower, I posted pics of her not long ago, she gets lighter with every shed. I'm anxious to see whether this double hypo stuff proves out or not.

I bred a male het raspberry to an albino whitesided het hypo and a sunglow and produced some hypos like yours. Apparantly the raspberry is some kind of hypo but I don't have a clue what line of hypo they are. I just needed a male to breed to these female to make multi hets. Very interesting and nice animals.

from what I have seen, the raspberry looks identical to the Trumbower hypo. not sure where it picked up the new name.

I hope you prove it out to be a double. It would be pretty interesting.

Where would you find pics of a raspberry? I've never heard of them, of course I'm still ignorant to alot of this stuff...

If you google raspberry bull snake it will give you a link to a thread on reptile radio that has a few pictures.

I believe you're right Lucas. At least in my case I was asking because I don't want to misrepresenting my animals. I guess my breeder male should have been sold to me as het hypo instead of het raspberry. Thanks for your help.

What's a raspberry? What genetics makes one of those?