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hello,

about 3 weeks ago i posted about a female western that i have that would only eat about every 2 weeks. well, i finally found her "tweak", i believe is how troy put it it was frustrating for me because i have 10 other hogs in the exact same setups that are thriving.

she has eaten 5 meals in 2 1/2 weeks! yeah! lol i put her on a separate heat strip and cranked the temp up to 100. she has slammed 5 live fuzzies in a row without refusal i guess she just wanted the warmer hot spot. my other hogs have a 90 degree hot spot. i had tried live before, but she would only take them along with anything else i offered every 2 weeks. i am a very happy camper that i found the right combo for my little one.

she is a beautiful red het toffee. hoping this trend will continue and she will continue to grow and thrive. thanks for the advice before...

jonathan

p.s. going to daytona in a couple of hours. have a couple of empty bins. will see what happens

That's awesome Jonathan! I'm so happy that you figured out what it was she was needing. I bet she's a happy hoggie now.

And thanks for the update, it's always great to hear of success stories such as yours.

Have fun at Daytona, I know you'll see lots of awesome animals there.
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Troy Rexroth
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I have a female at the moment thats being the same kind of way, Thanks for that post i will be turning my herpstat to 100F, See what happens, I'll report back if i notice any changes in her feeding.

Congrats, interesting but the discussion was, not all hogs are suppose to succeed. I suggested it was support. Since I came here I recommended hotter temps, better yet, a choice of hotter temps.

I only mention this as that same "hotter" choice would be BENEFITUAL to all your hogs.

In the field, we find body temps, which are normally lower then the air temps, well into the mid ninties. (remember, temporarily)(when out on the move)

heres a way to think about this and I mean think. All hogs benefit from a higher heat range, some individuals, do not tolerate lower temps as well as others. All these hogs in nature have access to temps in the mid 150's F. for most of the year(most of the year in the north is over six months, and the whole year in the south)

Now if you supported that animal with a larger cage and supported temps near the heat pad to 100F, that hog would take and quickly digest large meals and grow like a weed and reach a large size and produce lots of offspring.

OT, I know you don't like me and I don't blame you, but again, its not about me or you, its about the animals, WE ALL PUT IN BOXES.

The Trend here is, taking everything away from the animal, to the bare minimum. And that is YOUR choice, I would think it would be fun to actually offer more then the minimum.

In the pics I show of these beautiful animals in nature, there is no such minimum. They have the choice to do so many things and its so much fun to see the things they are designed to do.

Which means, you can have your cake(morphs) and eat it too(enjoy the individuals actual personality and behavior) end of off topic rant.

No its not, hahahahahaha

In school, in the lower grades, they teach the basics, the base to get you started learning. Each level adds to that, then at some point, you should have the epiphany of self learning, then you do not have to be taught, at that point, you can teach.

Recipe husbandry, is pre-school to first grade level husbandry, there is so much more to learn and ENJOY. THere is So much more to your animals. So much more your capable of doing.

About condescending, I am not that, I am also not patronizing. So many here form bonds thru patronizing(1.Treat with an apparent kindness that betrays a feeling of superiority.)

The patting others on the back, telling them they are so good, etc, is patronizing. And its done to maintain a perceived level of superiority.

Superiority complex,

An exaggerated feeling of being superior to others. 2. A psychological defense mechanism in which feelings of superiority counter or conceal feelings of inferiority.

While some of these people like to toss words around like condescending, there are many other words that can be tossed around. On forums, the reader beware.

In my defense, I always state its about the animals, which means, its not about you or the any keeper. I hope to benefit the animals. Not knowing any of you as "people" also is indication its not about you. If I attack anything its, RECIPE keeping, which I again will label as NON thinking or static.

You cannot get any worse then the recipe, but you can get better then recipe. So don't take it personal and what is good for that one individual snake can also be good for the others. Cheers

That is great to hear Jonathan!!! I bet you are ecstatic!

Like you said, you found her tweak. Every snake is an individual, and what works for one, may not work for another.

Post a pic of her if you can!!!
Again, congrats, and I hope she continues to excel!

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Genesis 1:1

Its the narrow range of husbandry that does not work for all of them. There is husbandry that indeed works for all. You just have to be willing to support that.

Its ok to choose not to support what works for all of them. That's a choice you can make. You can also choose to support what only works for most of them. Or works for a few, etc etc.

While they are indeed individuals, their biology is the same. Cheers and best of luck

thanks troy! yes, she is seems to be a happy hoggy lol daytona was fun! i actually went there looking to add a group of knob tailed geckos to the fam. instead, my wife came home with a panther chameleon. lol hey, she is not a reptile fan, so i will take it

discern, not sure what your name is, but i like your signature i am very relieved and will post a pic soon.

thanks...
jonathan

" discern, not sure what your name is, but i like your signature i am very relieved and will post a pic soon. "

Very cool about Daytona being fun! I missed going, but hopefully, I will be able to go again in the future. Not been able to in the last few years, but did go 11 years in a row.

My name is Billy.

Can't wait to see a pic!!

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Genesis 1:1