The two pairs came from this guy who is a breeder and teaches on the side Ha!
Thanks Mark these tortoises I got from you had a terrific tenure at your place as evidenced by the picture underneaths Vics post on winter enclosures above.
Hey if you ever get down to North Florida give us a shout---Red Foots, Elongated and Boas one day then over to St Augustine for some good ole Southern Bar-B-Q and we will visit the Black & Brown Mountain Tortoise Facility owned by my friend Vic. Later Teach----Richard

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Richard -amazoa-
"Changes in behavior occur when the pain of staying the same outweighs the pain of change."