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some H O G S ....

thomas davis Nov 20, 2013 09:49 PM

breeder male



breeder girls


some babies from a second clutch with an "oddball" kinda eastern pattern





,,,,,,,,,,thomas davis
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Morphs... just like baseball cards BUT ALIVE, how cool is that???

my website www.barmollysplace.com

Replies (5)

FR Nov 21, 2013 08:17 AM

Beautiful, your females are not obese, how interesting. They look like wild caught. How long are they and what are your conditions.

ALso, that one neonate does look like an eastern, It will be interesting to see what it looks like when its an adult. Thanks and best wishes

thomas davis Nov 21, 2013 11:33 AM

thanks FR
Joseph Lazlo told me when I was a very young keeper, "keepum Lean there are no obese snakes in the wild. it took me a long time to get that that is done through temps/choices not food intake, but I got there he also told me to listen and the snakes will tell me what they want, took a lot but I got there too!
they are not w/c, bought at various shows over the years.
male is 15/16 inches and 7-8yrs old
females are 28-30 inches and 4-5yrs old
kept in tub racks 2-3inch substrate shredded wood, back heat, up to low 90s keep room at mid to high 70s females kept together year round male moves in feb.thru june I only take him away to get him eating regularly and give the females a break. also at this time(feb.thru june) I change up the tub, offering 2inch deep damp coco bedding area for nesting, with a piece of glass another couple inches of shredded wood on top of that kinda multilevel with a large humid area when not nesting my girls stay away from the humid areas and seem to prefer dry most of the time as do my males.
they are fed usually twice a week sometimes once, during ovulation 3times a week, I feed them when they are hungry. the girls have double clutched for the past 2years and 1 tripled this last year.
I force brumation on most of my collection (hogs, corns, kings, milks) for a 4to6 week break for me, no heat no light no food I am so bad (ftr I do feel bad about this cruel thing just not THAT bad) usually mid dec. thru late jan. temps at this time average 60degrees I have no doubt my hogs would continue feeding thru this time but I don't feed them. come late jan. they act like my florida kings when I open the tubs and literally lunge for their food its truly terrifying.

,,,,,,,,,,thomas davis
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Morphs... just like baseball cards BUT ALIVE, how cool is that???

my website www.barmollysplace.com

FR Nov 21, 2013 03:58 PM

Thanks Thomas, Thanks for the information and we do have the right to be bad if we want. hahahahahahahaha
Did you know, I took Joe out for his first Willardi in the field? I had many great conversations with him, we all did. Again thanks

OrangeHeterodon Nov 25, 2013 08:08 AM

Nice hogs!

Even though the parents are all show-bought, is there a chance (considering a range overlap) of a possible inter-breeding somewhere in the genetic history of one of the parent snakes? As unlikely as it is, it could explain the unusual eastern-pattern that may have finally come through? Just a thought - and if it is possible, you may be able to add a new "pattern-morph" into the trade if you can get that pattern to show up several more times, I think its rather neat to see that pattern on a western.

thomas davis Nov 26, 2013 04:48 PM

thanks.
sure its possible but all 3 came from completely different sources.
I believe its a male so I will probably pair him up with his mother in the future.

,,,,,,,,,,thomas davis
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Morphs... just like baseball cards BUT ALIVE, how cool is that???

my website www.barmollysplace.com

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