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This is the fastest snake I've owned.

I think they were easier before they got used to me - now they are fearless and feeding them is always entertaining!!

I know this is the hognose forum, but I think it's cool to show what else we're into - hope you're all ok with that

This pic is from a year ago; they're quite a bit bigger now.

Is that a black racer?! Its gorgeous.I have always liked their personality they are so aware. I would always catch them and keep them for a few days but could never get them to eat and they would spaz out.

Very similar to the black racer, but these max out at about seven foot and are way more spaz
You have to know their quirks, because when they multiple strike it ain't fun.

a couple more pics...

Drymarchon?

Very similar in its manner.
They are always watching what I'm doing.
But way faster and waaay less stinky

Malpolon?

I've had the Malpolon, too (Montpellier) - awesome snakes !! but I didn't have a pair.
I'd love to try breeding them.

Ptyas mucosa?

Wow! Those are cool, too!

We should start a new forum - ID the herp...

Running out of snakes I am familiar with. Aesculapian snake? Used to Elaphe longissima, now something else.

Yeah, those were also available when we were kids.
I miss when the shows had more variety - I know it's good that there's more captive bred, but it was a lot of fun when you never knew what might be on the next table.

Well, I am really digging deep into the recesses of my mind. Books I read 30-40 years ago. Mole snake; Pseudaspis cana? No herp shows when I was a kid. Nobody in their wildest dreams could have imagined such a thing where I grew up.

Tell me about it - I used to go to the same pet stores everyday all Summer break fantasizing about taking home the natrix natrix

mussurana Clelia cleluia

I guess I should leave it open for a few more guesses.
Unfortunately, they're as scarce in captivity as they are unknown.

Those big eyes scream nocturnal, but the racer-like behavior screams diurnal. Looks wiry and strong as all hell. I eliminated common stuff (black milk, indigo) right away, but if i play much longer, I will have to cheat and pull out reference books. That is no fun, so I give up for the night. Hopefully someone smarter than me (which includes damn near everyone) will have the answer for me by morning. I am running out of colubrids. It is a colubrid, right? I am guessing maybe rear-fanged? I am very confident that it is not a hognose!

It is diurnal and is not rear-fanged, nor venomous.
It is not scarce in the wild, but many have given up working with them, because they're such nutjobs.

montpellier snake?

tbrophy already suggested that one.

Seriously running out of options here. Stiletto snake, Atractaspis sp.? They are very poorly known, but I think rear-fanged? I know they are nutjobs.

No, they're not considered rear-fanged

Just to stay remotely in hognose forum territory, is it in the subfamily xenodontinae? (May be old taxonomy, been a long damn time since I took herpetology). Whatever the fork it is, I want a pair!

No it isn't - don't make me feel guilty for prolonging a completely non-hog related thread on the hognose forum

I guess, in personality, you could say it's like a cross between a coachwhip and a bullsnake.

You should be feeling guilty, there are lots an lots of colubrid type snakes all over the world that are rarely kept in captivity.
That you like obscure species is great, Move on to another species or back to hogs, hahahahahahahahahaha

Fortunately, they're not mutually exclusive

Frank is right about hogging the hognose forum with non-hognose threads. But it has been fun. Made me stretch my brain. So, one more suggestion and I am out. Coluber viridiflorus?

David got it

Excellent; does he get a free pair of western hogs? For that matter, do I get a free pair of western hogs for participating? I will even pay shipping! I am surprised at the size of that snake. Did not know European Coluber were so girthy. At any rate, thanks for the diversion.

Here's a cool link to some European stuff:
(note they are referred to as hierophis jugularis)

http://www.cyberlizard.plus.com/euro_colubridae.html

And here are a couple of cool clips:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOf69lGaq6k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54h647gY4Qs

Headed to Mexico tomorrow, wonder what I will see.

Be careful FR. And good luck with the snakes.

Thank You, David, where we are going there are boa constrictors, rosy boas, black kings, some goofy rattlesnakes etc. Just a little farther south there are these whipsnakes that get 10 feet, Kinda like a green giant coachwhip. I have kept them and found them, I would think caracal would love them. Cheers

That is exciting if Mexico was a safe country with a strong gov I would move there. It seems so unexplored I haven't found many good field guides on Mexico.

The fact you don't know a species, believe it or not, doesn't make it obscure.
Obviously, many European hobbyists are more familiar with the colubrids found in Europe.
Similarly, most European hobbyists are more aware of the many species of lacerta. Here only lacerta lepida is well known - that doesn't make lacerta trilineata, for example, an obscure species.

Mussurana.

No - though I like those guys too.

Alright, I've read every post! WHAT IS IT????

Somebody's got to know...

Jacksons tree snake?

They're cool, but they have a very different head shape

Okay here is my last one.

cluber jugularis?

BINGO!

Here's a cool link to some European stuff:
(note they are referred to as hierophis jugularis)

http://www.cyberlizard.plus.com/euro_colubridae.html

And here are a couple of cool clips:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOf69lGaq6k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54h647gY4Qs

That was tuff. Its funny how some countries have a black snake and a green snake that always look the same.

Absolute Beauty!!

She weighs 3 lbs and is just a baby.
I think with her shotgun nose she qualifies as a hognose