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Again, I don't present my view to attempt to convince FR or those who strongly ascribe to his views.
I respect a lot of his ideas, but I have some other ideas too.

I present my ideas for others who might be interested in hearing them and would love to hear other ideas in response.
It is a tremendous shame that so many have become disappointed or intimidated and no longer contribute to the forum either because they are pounced upon for saying something or because they don't like the childish arguing.

The female in the picture below chose to lay her eggs in the bottom corner up against the plastic. Her head is above the substrate, but I didn't photograph it, because I don't want to disturb her.

Like I said, I think it might be important to them to feel surrounded by firm "walls" when they are pushing the eggs out.

In this vein, I'm inclined to believe the type of substrate might be important to them.
I will add play sand to the coconut for some of the females and see how that works out, though given that I've had very good results so far, I'm not expecting to see radically different results.

To be continued....

I, personally, think the term "egg bound" is over used and might be a misnomer in some events.
I've had "egg bound" females, myself, and have always treated it, because I have followed the gospel truth repeated over and over that they will die otherwise.
I have always been to nervous to just leave her to her own devices.
I have never aspirated through the snake wall and haven't loss a female yet.

I have been thinking about this a lot in the last few days.

One breeder told me that he had an "egg bound" female expel the last normal full-sized egg, 6 days after the others.

I just got off the phone with another very well respected breeder who we all know and who avoids this forum because of the politics.
He told me he used to aspirate but now does nothing at all.
He leaves the female alone and she nearly always expels it by herself.
He told me it seems most probable that this occurs in nature all the time and that's what happens without disturbance.
I am inclined to agree.
I think the term "egg bound" in many of these events is incorrect, because I don't see the females struggling in any way to expel the last egg (an egg that is no larger than the 15 she's already expelled).
I believe the egg gets left behind for another reason and that most of the time we should just leave it alone.
From now on that is what I will do !!
If I see that works against me I will reassess.
Like I said, I address this post, as humbly as possible, to those who are interested in another view.

Again, you think a lot without clarifying what your thinking about.
Egg bound females where the egg gets stuck at the vent, can kill them quickly. You want these removed.
Others can pass them, others can absorb them. I have seen some where the eggs turned into hard rocks, then the next year, reproduce normally, and somehow lose those rocks, not passed, just gone.
I also thank you for proving my point, deep nesting, that sucker went all the way to the bottom. Which is in stark contrast to what I called aborting or an abortion, where the eggs are uncovered and scattered around the box. Your nesting is fine.
Amoungst your other traits, you seem to take things in extremes. hahahahahahahahaha
What you have done is beyond what I was hoping for.
I also have no idea why you have to make everything confrontational just to have a conversation. Thanks so much for showing your wonderful pics and congrats.

You're like an annoying mosquito.

That means I am the most deadly lifeform in the world, having killed more people then even people, which is the second most deadly lifeform.

"Egg bound females where the egg gets stuck at the vent, can kill them quickly. You want these removed.
Others can pass them, others can absorb them. "

Can you explain to me how a snake of any kind can reabsorb an egg as you stated?

Its again easy, First, to play your game, the term reabsorb is silly, that indicates absorbing the egg/ovum, again, like for the second time. What occurs is the egg/ovum is dissolved by the snake and disappears. Which indeed occurs. Ovum is absorbed easily and commonly. Once they are shelled(become an egg) Its much more difficult. But as Caracal indicated, can occur.
So, why didn't you question Caracal, he's the one who said egg binding is not a bad thing.
His attitude is horrible. Its like, if it does not kill them, its all good. As Gregg mentioned, it may not kill them, but it always leaves its effect thru oviduct scaring and damage. And shortens the reproductive life of a female. Or, ends her life.
I think Caracal should do some research of Herp vets and see the type of patients they see. Reproductive complications are indeed a common problem seen by vets.

If it was silly then why did you use it in your post?

Just to see how silly you will get, the word BAIT comes to mind