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I'm sure this has been asked before but........are these true northerns or crossed with a southern? I pretty sure that there are true albino southern pines but haven't heard about a true albino northern.

thanks,
chip

Quote taken from Pituophis page:

"Amelanistic, or "albino" Northern Pines exist in herpetoculture that are descendants of an albino specimen hatched from a wild-collected clutch of eggs. This lucky find occurred near the eastern edge of the Pine Barrens in Ocean County, NJ in the early to mid-1980's. Interestingly, a 48" adult albino female was taken from the same area in the late 1980's, and one or two more albinos were hatched by a NJ university conducting research on the effects of temperature on hatchling sex ratios. Since the latter albinos occurred or were taken into academic settings, it is unlikely that any large-scale breeding attempts were made with them. Virtually all of the albinos in captivity that are "pure" melanoleucus are descendants of the original Ocean Co. hatchling.

Other lines of albino Northern Pines may exist, but these may be the result of outcrossing other common Pituophis albinos into P. m. melanoleucus. When trying to acquire a "pure" albino Northern Pine, research the lineage as thoroughly as possible. Other color morphs are becoming available; of note are "Red Phase", "Red Phase" albinos and "Peach Phase".

Patternless and Leucistic Northern Pines exist, but their subspecies purity is suspect due to those traits' prior documentation in P. m. mugitus. It should be noted that the availability of many of the morphs mentioned above is limited."
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