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hognose cage coming along.

FR Aug 08, 2014 08:47 AM

Its taking shape now, made the doors and decided what the finish will be. Working on the heating/cooling mechanics. Making the heat/cool emitter today.


I am going with a CocoCola motif, red with Coco Cola signs on the doors(at least as of now)
I am ordering the window today.

Replies (14)

Paul Lynum Aug 08, 2014 10:58 AM

Maybe you could go all out and put some alterna there too! lol. Nice cage system you built there.

PL

FR Aug 08, 2014 11:27 AM

hahahahahahahaha, actually this is patterned off some of my old(early seventies) alterna drawer cages. Only they were not so fancy.
This cage will start with hogs, then I will build more with diorama back drops that have hog habitat, instead of rockwork. Then this one goes to my trio of Ajo boas. One of which is gravid now.
I have an idea, on making cages with interchangeable backgrounds. That's next.
Right now I am dinking around with this, It makes heat or makes cold, by reversing polarity. I am testing the size of the manifold that emits heat/cold

Not sure how well it will work, I may have to shoot down another Satellite.

nasicus Aug 08, 2014 04:15 PM

Nice looking cage. But its still just a tupperware style rack system like every other rack system is based on. Nothing new or innovative.

FR Aug 08, 2014 05:06 PM

Hahahahahahahaha what a jerk, its new to me, and that's what counts. About a million times better then YOUR tarantula boxes.
Thanks for looking

Gregg_M_Madden Aug 08, 2014 10:15 PM

I think you are missing something here. It is a proper vivarium only much more versatile. If you notice, there are PVC tubes that go down from the vivarium area into the bins. This will allow the snake to go from a surface area down into a subterranean environment. Not even close to a rack system. This type of cage will allow for a HUGE range of thermo and humidity gradients. This can never be achieved in a simple rack system. I use racks almost exclusively for my snakes. I am a breeder so I need to utilize as much space as possible. However, I would like to try this type of set up for a pair of hogs just to see how they utilize the large gradients. You are right about one thing. It is not new, but it is rarely utilized.

I am still trying to figure out if you really like to be argumentative or if you are just as stupid as the day is long.
I like to argue sometimes too but I also know when to quit. It can get repetitive and good points of view and invaluable information seems to become farts in a wind storm.

Maybe you can bring something to the table other than trying to one up frank. Try posting lots of pics of your set ups, information on behavior, and successes attributed to the way you do things.

nasicus Aug 12, 2014 08:19 AM

"You are right about one thing. It is not new, but it is rarely utilized."

At least we agree on something even if FR doesnt see it. Its just a box stacked on top of a rack system. Same style of recipe husbandry that FR preaches against.

"I am still trying to figure out if you really like to be argumentative or if you are just as stupid as the day is long.
I like to argue sometimes too but I also know when to quit. It can get repetitive and good points of view and invaluable information seems to become farts in a wind storm."

Now you know how many feel about FR and his endless dribble. I will continue pointing out the obvious flaws in his posts. Just like he likes to do with everyone else. As they say, you get what you give...

"Maybe you can bring something to the table other than trying to one up frank. Try posting lots of pics of your set ups, information on behavior, and successes attributed to the way you do things."

I have but FR isnt worthy of my experience or konwledge. When basic chemistry elicits the childish rants and name calling posts from FR, why would I or anyone else continue to share our knowledge and be subjected to his abusive rants?

FR Aug 12, 2014 09:18 AM

Nastiness, thank you for being you. Why are you so butt hurt? Move on sir, I am going to keep on doing what I am doing.
I am sorry no one cares about you. Maybe if you put all this effort you waste on me, to your snakes, people will care about you.
You do understand, all your doing is glorifying me.
Your chemistry is like all the other crap you talk about, silica, is silica, It does not matter if its alkaline or acid, Its a grain of sand. What is alkaline is the soil. Again like your other non sense, misleading and only to argue. No one cares.
When you call this cage a normal rack system, all the folks understand your blind and angry.
Whats odd is, I already have a line of folks wanting me to build them cages like this. So again, what you say is meaningless. But please keep it up.

nasicus Aug 13, 2014 09:44 PM

"Your chemistry is like all the other crap you talk about, silica, is silica, It does not matter if its alkaline or acid, Its a grain of sand. What is alkaline is the soil. Again like your other non sense, misleading and only to argue."

I addressed the question you asked and I expounded on the issue of soil. You did not understand it and you are still trying to cover up your lack of knowledge on the subject. That is on you. Your link is to a commercial product full of information to get you to buy their product. If that is what you call reference material I question even more of your so called intellect. You can post a thousand pictures but that proves nothing about the content and acidity or alkalinity of the soil. They are just pics of similar looking areas nothing more.

"When you call this cage a normal rack system, all the folks understand your blind and angry. Whats odd is, I already have a line of folks wanting me to build them cages like this."

No matter how you slice it FR they are simply a cage stacked on a rack system. Just like every other type of cage and rack that you denounce. Its recipe style husbandry.

I find it funny that I have a conversation with Gregg and you post not one but three replies. What i also find funny is your lack decorum and ability to maintain a civil reply when you are being questioned or proven to be a hypocrite about your so called advanced husbandry practices and your lack of knowledge of general chemistry. Even more shocking is your lack of comprehension with your own words.

I was forwarded a nice email that outlined you and your ever so lacking ability to remain civil. The email directed me to the lizard forums where I enjoyed reading hundreds of your same antics and lack of forum decorum and public civility towards others.

What I learned and was politely educated on by others on here is that all these negative issues are centered around you and you are the problem wether you want to see it or not.

FR Aug 14, 2014 09:09 AM

Thank you for pointing out, all your crap is not about hognose, and Is about your social insecurity. The insecurity that causes you to act in a childish ignorant way.
The good part is, that advertisement, explained exactly how alkaline soils occur, and posted pics of areas in the west exactly like the pics I posted of habitat.
About the Varanid forum, yes, was not different then here, all forums have "People" that care more about themselves then they do about the animals. Also common trait for reptile keepers is having control issues, keepers that take everything away from animals. Everything natural. Yes, that's true. Yet, there are keepers that want to add to the animals captive lives. I belong to that group of keepers, I meet them everyday.
Whats odd is, why do you fight? There is room for both type keepers and more. Yet, you go on with your senseless fighting and horsecrap. Guess what, go ahead, all you are doing is pointing out how insecure you are. Your afraid to even say who you really are.

FR Aug 14, 2014 10:10 AM

Nasicus, you fit the definition of the word Troll to a tee.

In Internet slang, a troll (/ˈtroʊl/, /ˈtrɒl/) is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people,[1] by posting inflammatory,[2] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response[3] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.

You refuse to talk about hognose, or husbandry, or anything meaningful to this forum. All do is TROLL.
Here's the deal, if you were REAL, you would post your work, your approach, your direction, your thoughts, and your opinions. I would post mine, and then let whomever wants to believe, do, understand, learn whatever, do what they will. I never said what I do is for everyone, in fact the opposite. But what I do is perfect for me, and some others. Not everyone. That you cannot have that is why you get called names by me. Sir, just post what you do with hognose, and not worry about me or others. That's what I do. And that's what I will continue to do. As long as I have an interest in hognose. Thank you and show us/me something!!!! oh other then being a really good troll

FR Aug 12, 2014 09:28 AM


This is actually funny, this is a picture of a where I obtained my nesting soil.
Link

FR Aug 12, 2014 09:32 AM

The above picture is the site in question, the link shows pictures of alkaline soil areas, identical to this and explains how it occurs.
Or you and yours, can easily goggle, alkaline soil, and learn more about what causes alkaline soil. And if you go to images of alkaline soil, it shows areas identical to the hog site. Thank you so much for your participation.

mblons Aug 23, 2014 02:12 PM

This is classic. I haven't been coming to the forum as often lately but the last SEVERAL times it has been the same. It starts with an innocuous statement by FR and someone invariably takes the bait. Then there is a flurry-like feeding frenzy with a huge line of comments of attack with FR smugly sitting with the thought that he has done it yet again. Really quite funny when you think about it.

FR Aug 23, 2014 06:26 PM

hi, my posts are just my posts, they are innocuous, your right. I do not make them to bait people. Some of the folks here remind me of a trout fishing pond at Knotts Berry farm when I was a kid. You could catch them with a pencil or a piece of old sock. They bite at anything that hits the water.
I think the point is, I have nothing against how anyone else keeps their snakes, its theirs to do. The problem is, many here does not want others(me) to keep snakes in a different approach then they do, so they fight. They miss the point, I could careless what they fight about. I am old enough to keep doing what I do. I others like it, great, if they don't , that's great too. Best wishes

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