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The real history of Mex axanthics

FR Nov 15, 2014 10:27 AM

Jon Roylance and a friend, discovered the first Known Kennerlyi axanthic in 2007. My friend was in the field and jon found the snake on the road. Jon took that animal and some others to breed it to. He was successful and produced possible hets(they have never been proven out) Then something personal happened and the male axanthic died and a number of other hogs as well. After this the story gets cryptic.

In 2012, my friend told me about an area to see hogs. V, my wife, really wanted to see them in nature. He did not tell me where the axanthic was found. Let it be known, I had seen hogs there in the past, on my way to the mountains, many times. Mostly dead on the road. So my wife and I went. I could careless about road hunting a hog. So I immediately went in the bush. Within a few minutes, I found a neonate. At the exact same time, my wife found one on the road. It was great fun. We found a lot of hogs, beat my friends record. The next week we went again, This time we found one of those funny looking axanthics, took its picture and released it. hahahahahaha I told my friend and he beat me with a stick until I bled profusely. After he returned to the states, we went together. We found another neonate, he took it. A couple of weeks later, I found a 18 inch female. Which really blew his mind. it was maybe 100m away from where Jons male was found. I then found a 15 inch mature male, maybe a mile away. These two are the pair that produced axanthic neonates. part one.

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FR Nov 15, 2014 11:02 AM

That the female was found close to where Jons was, it could be assumed they were related. To me, the evidence that his produced normal visuals when breed to normal visuals, indicates a recessive gene. Then my visual axanthic, when bred to another visual axanthic, produced visual axanthics, indicates a recessive gene. Considering these animals were from the same local. It offers compelling evidence this is a recessive gene. Compelling means a strong indication. Actual hard scientific proof, not so much. but by far proof enough for this deli cup hobby. Remember kids, this is a deli cup hobby. Please, that is not to disparage deli cupping, I love it and science, but they do not have to go together. And they don't. Like civil court requires less proof then state or federal courts.
Back to the story, since then, I locate two more pair of axanthics and a couple that are visually lite. My task is to not fiddle with breeding to non visuals, as Troy wants. Why? to produce a zillion hets. Heck no, my task is to bred the axanthics to eachother. Later, I could outbreed to add to other morphs. Like done with westerns. The only problem is, there are few to outbreed to. Gregg has a unique kennerlyi, and that's it, other then my xanthic female. The yellow(ish) one I posted recently. The problem is, I do not have a male for her. I did find a male, but its still roaming free. hahahahahahahaha got me, I am a idiot. My interest in hogs was first natural history based, with deli cupping way back. So if axanthics popped up, I would obtain a small group, but did not collect other morphs.
Again my interest is natural history, in this, locating a population that includes a recessive morph, like albinos or axanthics, is a rare tool to see how far a gene spreads. pt 2

FR Nov 15, 2014 11:25 AM

What hobbyist want to prove or disprove, is up to them. I could careless and have no need to waste time on those demands. They want to do that, good on them. But that doesn't mean, I'am going to do something for reasons other then my own.
If Troy or others would offer some compelling reason, that I should do something, I would consider that. But for arguments sake. Troy Bite me.
The goal, produce captive hatched Mexican axanthics, the result.

captive hatched Mexican axanthics. They are the first, if anyone has proof it has been done before, then proof it, if not, my "claim" stands. These are the first.
Troy, I am not sure you are very smart. You simply do not understand what a lie is. Let me give you an example, I can say, Troy your stupid as a stone. But if in fact, Troy is not as stupid as a stone. That is not a lie, its an opinion. Opinions cannot be lies. They can be wrong. Am I wrong? no, as he has no understanding of what lies are. My opinion stands, Troy is, at least, acting as stupid as a stone.

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