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Goldfish and Pond questions

whitespider Apr 17, 2005 02:50 PM

I currently have a small pond with I think too many fish, but they seem to be doing well as they are growing with a nice rate for me and the coloring on them has become pretty nice. I'm planning on making another pond, much much much larger and planning it to be at least 3~4 feet deep, yes I know, must be extra cautious when children are around. And I wanted to know what type of set up would yeild the most natural environment without extra care. I would like it to be much like a natural environment where a nice mini ecosytem can keep things in balance. I know of course I will be doing a lot of care I just like selfsufficient techniques.

First question: What plants specifically will really utilize the waste that my goldfish will be producing and help with water quality as well as provide some nutritional value to the fish? I know there isn't one single plant for all of that, so I'm willing to maintain a number of plants as long as it doesn't become like 8 different plants that I must treat each individual species in a special way.

Second question: What type of nutrition other than the natural stuff they eat in the pond help with their health? I'm not into any of the steroids/harmons or color enhancers, i.e. are there any vitamins that help them? I tried one of those vitamin pyramid and followed the instruction and it seemed to help their appearance, but made me worried a little when it made one of the comets grow extremly fast as I put two of the same size in the pond and one grew about 3 times the size of the other one in a matter of 2 months. I was told they can do that when they are young, but in any way can that reduce their life expectancy?

Thrid question: I have some live bearing fish and the plants in the pond seem good enough for them to hide as I can find new fish that have survived being tiny. But is there some type of environment that I should make for the egg laying fish because I was told that they will eat their own eggs. So would I need special ground covering for the pond or something of that nature to protect some of the eggs?

Fourth question: I've noticed that either one of my goldfish is bloated or pregnant. It's the largest of the fish in the pond, should I be alarmed? And if so what measures should I take to help my fish?

I guess I should mention as well as these goldfish are just the cheep ones (feeder fish)you can buy for 25 cents, but I find it interesting to take these fish and make them into larger more flamboyant fish, like taking a commuter car and making it something interesting. And the other fish are just mosquito fish that were provided from the city, they don't look like guppies, they look like black/brown normal feederfish (kinda look like goldfish), but don't grow more than an inch and a half it seems.

I can take pictures if anyone wants me to.

Replies (8)

Minuet Apr 23, 2005 07:53 PM

HI!

I'm afraid I can't answer most of your questions, but I'll describe what we have.

We have a smallish pond, about 8 feet long, 5 feet wide, 3 feet deep. We have goldfish and some type of feeder fish that I have no idea what it is. We do very little with the pond and they seem to do very well. My hubby has some kind of filter system built into the waterfall and in the box that holds the pump. He cleans it out about once a month.

We have lilies and some kind of parrot plant I think it is called in the pond. The one plant is spreading very nicely in the rock we have around the edges of the pond. We do nothing special with the plants. Just cut the lilies down in the fall.

We do nothing nutritional with the fish. We don't feed or put any enhancers in the pond. All the fish are a beautiful bright orange and the multicolored ones are very pretty. We have some blackish colored ones that have turned gold, others have stayed black.

I have noticed when our fish layed eggs, it was the larger ones that were the females and they did get quite bloated. I have nothing special to protect the eggs and usually we don't even know where the eggs are. Sometimes I can see them, most of the times I can't. Usually I know we have babies when they are actually large enough to see.

I'd love to see some pictures!
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Min

whitespider Apr 24, 2005 08:12 PM

Thanks for the reply. I appreciate the info. I currently have some type of parrot plant in there as well. What was the name of the plant that you have going around the rocks? I'll post some pictures soon for you, right now i have a small pond, but I'm starting to gear up for making the new pond. I also got a plant that grows nicely near rivers the directions said that they like to be in an inch of water, I'll take a pic of that as well since it's actually a very interesting looking plant. Thanks again for replying =)

Minuet Apr 25, 2005 12:09 PM

I'm not exactly sure what the name of the plant is, but some type of parrot I thought. Anyway, it is in a container that I sat on inside rim of the pond and it started spreading all by itself around the inside rocks in the pond. Looks pretty. I'll try to get some new pictures.

Min
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Min

whitespider Apr 25, 2005 09:52 PM

here are some pics of my gheto pond and that weird plant I was talking about.
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whitespider Apr 25, 2005 09:54 PM

bleh, I don't know how to post these pictures, so here is a link to to them http://speed.supercars.net/PitLane?viewThread=y&gID=4&fID=1&tID=36937

just copy and past it into the address bar if you need to.

Minuet Apr 27, 2005 11:36 AM

You can upload your photos in the photo gallery here. Click on the Photo Gallery link below the PondHobbyist banner at the top of the page. It's real easy.
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Min

whitespider Apr 28, 2005 12:21 AM

Thanks for the tip i'll check it out. Is the plant you have similiar to the one in the pond that I showed or was the quality too bad to tell? I could take a closer look of the parrot plant if you want.

Minuet Apr 30, 2005 07:55 PM

One of the plants is like the one on the right. It died though. I'm not sure what the others are called. I wish my camera was working so I could get a photo.
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Min

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