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New here and need help with my grey

Romeo_Julian Mar 02, 2008 08:42 AM

I am owned by 8 rescued parrots and taming has been a breeze except for my grey named Rocko.He is a mix grey.He has the tail of a congo and the head and beak of a timneh.He is very wild and I have been working with him for 7 months now and not getting anywhere.I want to be able to let him out more then anything.I can give him treats but he snags them from me.I have toweled him(which I hate to do)and taken him into the bathroom and he does real good for a little while as long as I don't touch him and then he goes wild.He used to growel at me all the time and he now doesn't do that anymore.I have tried the perch training,left his door open sitting near him and he won't come out but if I move away from him the chase is on.I am very consistant with everything and it works with my amazons but Rocko is tough.Rocko's sex and age are not known,he doesn't talk at all but sure can whistle(lol) and the lady I got him from was a breeder and had him in a corner by himself with NO toys or even a perch.She had him 2 yrs and never even gave him a name.Anyone with advice other then the normal taming things to do it would really help.

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PHIggysbirds Mar 02, 2008 05:59 PM

Well, I can give one suggestion but it may not work and you may not like it. In extreme cases many bird behaviorists will suggest the toweling method for taming birds. Basically you towel the bird as you already do to carry into the bathroom. But instead of just taking him into a different room and letting him out of the towel take him into a room with you, leaving him in the towel. Keep him secure in the towel all except for the head. Then spend time talking and stroking his head (be careful not to have the chest too tight as I am sure you already know). Be very consistent with this doing it every day for 15 minutes or twice a day if you can fit it in. Gradually work with loosening the towel over the wings and body over time until he is just very loose in the towel. If he is calm during this try with only the towel laying loose over his body, then with no towel. The towel both protects you from bites but also can make the bird feel more secure during your time together.

Also I know it is one of the "usual" methods but have you tried targeting? Basically using a toy or dowel rod as a target item for him to bite while you are working with him. It gives him a way to let out his aggression or fear without biting you. He gets to bite a certain item and even gets a reward for it. If this works you can start doing the target less and less until you are no longer using it all in effect training the "attack" out of him.

We have only had this problem with one of the rescue/sanctuary birds and that was a wild caught amazon. The toweling method worked well with him. We have also had two macaws in that were bonded from a year old and were already 15 when they arrived. In their case we do not separate them, as the male will not eat and gets more aggressive without the female but they have come around to stick training and taking food by hand (not snapping, gently taking) by using the target method. It took over a year with them as they were used to no human companionship and only each other (they had poor care with no toys, no interaction, were only checked on 2-3 times a week and lived in filth). They are doing well with their training but being bonded and with their earlier care they will never be a "pet" for most people and in fact the female has medical issues which keep them from going to a new home as well. We have used the target method on several birds with good results but the toweling method we haven't had to resort to except in the one instance.

Just keep patient, you are already working well with this problem. If you haven't try targeting, or If possible try the toweling training to see how it works but do not expect it to go quickly and if all else fails you may have to accept that this bird has had too many problems with humans to trust them and may do better in an aviary setting instead of as a hands on feathered friend.

Romeo_Julian Mar 02, 2008 10:10 PM

I well try the targeting but when I give him treats he throws them.
Thank-you so much.
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DEANA & FLOCK

PHIggysbirds Mar 03, 2008 11:18 AM

Sometimes rewards can be things other than treats. See if he responds better to an excited voice or a quiet voice. Then when he is doing well use the voice he responds best to and when he is not doing what he should use a "disappointed or displeased voice". Even if he won't accept treats the tone of voice should help get through to him. But again as you already know be consistent. Don't use happy praise one time and soft praise the next or he may be confused as to which is good and which is not. Also keep trying different treats. My Lewy and Lolo both (CAG) are very picky about their treats. Most of our other birds like pieces of almond or peanut but they respond better to bites of pasta or birdie muffins. It could be you haven't located his favorite yet.

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