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Pueblan milk snake probing question

imjustheather Sep 11, 2015 06:28 PM

Does anyone know the number of scales for determining if the snake is a male or female when probing? I can't seem to find anything online.

Replies (6)

mingdurga Sep 11, 2015 08:25 PM

Probe won't go in more than 3-4 sub-caudals for female, while a male is more than twice the number.

Mike

imjustheather Sep 11, 2015 08:27 PM

Thank you! That's just what I needed.

mingdurga Sep 12, 2015 06:58 AM

Just remember two things: don't force the probe and use a slow twirling motion, especially in females. A lubricant will help also. Google "Joseph Lazlo's" name. He was a former reptile keeper at a well known texas zoo. You might get a nice diagram showing exactly how it's done.

Mike

slimlv Sep 12, 2015 03:41 PM

Google Cathy Love sexing snakes with a probe. There is a simple diagram showing it for you.

mingdurga Sep 12, 2015 04:47 PM

Yes, thanks. This is the same diagram I've had for over 20 years.
It's in one of my reptile folders somewhere, but haven't had the time to search. Popping hatchlings right after the first shed is still my favorite method of choice.

Mike

imjustheather Sep 12, 2015 05:01 PM

Thanks for the resources! I've probed snakes before, I just didn't know the scale counts for peublans since it varies a bit between species. The ones we have are adults but I read that there is no real sexual dimorphism so comparing sizes doesn't usually work well.

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