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I originally thought that by crossing an albino and an anery would provide actual snows. Was I right about that, or will it produce normal looking het for both? Then breeding a pair that is het for both will provide snows? I'm new to this type of thing, so simple language please

If the second scenario is true, what happens if the original albino from 1 of the dh offspring is kahl line, and the albino from the 2nd dh offspring is a sharp? Since I've read that combing kakl sharp provide normal looking het for both strains of albino, but no actual albino, what will the dh snow x dh snow babies end up being?

>I originally thought that by crossing an albino and an anery would provide actual snows. Was I right about that, or will it produce normal looking het for both?

This mating will produce normal looking babies that are heterozygous for both albino and anerythristic.

>Then breeding a pair that is het for both will provide snows? I'm new to this type of thing, so simple language please

Breeding a pair that are heterozygous for both will (statistically) produce 1/16 snows. The rest will be normals, albinos, and anerythristics.

>If the second scenario is true, what happens if the original albino from 1 of the dh offspring is kahl line, and the albino from the 2nd dh offspring is a sharp? Since I've read that combing kakl sharp provide normal looking het for both strains of albino, but no actual albino, what will the dh snow x dh snow babies end up being?

This is a cross that you do not want to do. Statistically, a quarter of the babies will be anerythristic and the rest will look normal. Any of the babies could be heterozygous for Kahl albino or Sharp albino or both. Any of the normal babies could also be heterozygous for anerythristic.

The problem here is that BOTH parents must have at least one Kahl albino mutant gene. Otherwise, none of the babies would be able to show the Kahl albino condition. The same is true for Sharp albino. And erythristic.

Here is an analogy. You need two motorcycle wheels for a motorcycle and two bicycle wheels for a bicycle. If you buy a motorcycle wheel at one shop and a bicycle wheel at a second shop, you don't have either a complete bicycle or a complete motorcycle. Think of the Kahl albino gene as one type of wheel and the Sharp albino gene as the other type of wheel.

Hope that helps.

Paul Hollander

Has anyone considered, or begun, a project to produce Kahl/Sharp albinos? Breed an albino of each type to produce offspring het for both strains, then breed the offspring to each other. Would/should this produce a new type of albino?

I asked Pete Kahl about the DH Kahl snow to DH Sharp snow breeding and he said it would produce the hets for both strains with no albinos and it would be a mess, but does that mean they will possibly be deformed or stillborn, or does that mean it could be a waste of a lot of time and money?
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I don't know whether anyone has started a project to put Kahl and Sharp albinos into the same animal. I rather doubt it, but I'm not really in the loop.

IMHO, breeding DH Kahl snow to DH Sharp snow would be a mess because of the difficulty in labeling the genotypes of the babies. IMHO, most breeders would also consider the cross a waste of time and money.

Like you, I've heard that mating a Kahl albino to a Sharp albino produces normal-looking double heterozygotes. That is what everyone says, but nobody has been able to tell me who has done the cross and got that result. So far it is hearsay, as far as I am concerned. I think it is probably true, but I'd sure like someone to say that he did the cross.

Paul Hollander

The breeding was done back in '93 by Brian Sharp,(not sure if it was a collaborative effort between Pete & Brian though? Brian had aquired several "original strain hets" from the first litters & may have had animals old enough to do the breeding on his own by '93???). an "original Kahl strain" het was bred to the matriarch Sharp strain,(homozygous...,which if compatible,should've resulted in roughly 50% albino/50% hets)a litter of seventeen was produced,(no albinos)and,from that trial it was deduced that even though both strains appear to be tyrosinase negative amelanistics,they were not geneticlly homogenous. I do not know if it's been done since then,or,what happened to those seventeen animal that were hets for "Sharp",50% poss.het."Kahl"....though it may be thought of as "a bad idea" theoretically,producing animals that were 100% heterozygous for both strains,(by breeding homozygous "Kahl strain" to homozygous "Sharp strain".) might be advantageous,in that one hypothetical "double het" could be used towards one project one year,and,the "other project" the following year? providing these "pivotal hets" were actually fertile & viable that is!,(there have been some physical issues with the Kahl strain,and,certainly some fecundity issues with the Sharp strain,so it's anyones guess as to how this combination might help,or,hinder either strain.)Hope this helps to answer some of the questions pertaining,at least to the who/what/where of this issue...it's interesting food for thought though.

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