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need some help(soft shell)

zeroto4legs Sep 08, 2005 03:52 PM

im going to be getting a rescue soft shell turtle tomorrow to help aid in a recovery process, the kid that first bought it didnt want it anymore and didnt take care of it, and im in a vet class and they gave it to the class and i said ill try to help so im going to be taking him home 2morrow during school about 11 30 , so far i have a 10 gallo tank with a water dish(glass was cracked so cant fill with all water and it will only be with me till recovered) a heat lamp with a hot spot of 90 and cool end of 80 water is about 76, i just need some help on what to feed him he is about 4 in shell. i have can o grasshoppers for my bearded dragons can i cut them up and give to him what eles can i feed him

thanks for your help(and just so everyone know i have a general knowledge of turtles so im not compely in the blue and i read about 5 care sheets on soft shells to day in about 1 hr and took notews thanks for everyone help

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casichelydia Sep 08, 2005 09:16 PM

you were reading, because they should have made it clear that a small semi-aquatic setup will not work for a softshell.

You did not mention what species of softshell you are aquiring. This can make a huge difference, both literally and in terms of care difficulty. In many species, wind up with a female and you are starting with what will become, size-wise, twice the turtle that a male would have.

Any and all species of softshell will need a truly aquatic setup that is, preferably, strongly filtered, since they don't handle abrupt changes in water pH or chlorine levels any more comfortably than do most fish. A layer of fine gravel will be a big plus, as this will allow the turtle to do what comes very naturally to it - dig into the substrate and remain buried. This activity is also important in keeping the shell clean of debris.

Insofar as where to put the turtle, big tanks are expensive (start with at least a 20 Long-style). It is much easier to get a Rubbermaid or Steralite plastic basin from one of any of the big retail stores, as they are quite cheap and relatively sturdy if you're only filling one up to eight or nine inches. That's more depth than you'd need for a four inch specimen. Also, the accompanying plastic lid can be placed over it for keeping the air warm in the winter, since you'll need a submersible heater. Ebo Jager heaters are the better bet, and can be purchased at drsfostersmith.com, among other places.

Diet. Freeze-dried items are not a diet. They are the crickets and mealworms that are even more devoid of necessary vitamin and mineral contents than the live versions. A nutritionally complete turtle diet such as ReptoMin or Mazuri Freshwater Turtle Diet will work, if the animal will accept it. Some softshells take food sticks, some do not. Should yours fail to, fish will serve as a good diet, and insects can provide variety.

It is imperative that the water remain quite clean. Remember that nitrogenous wastes (ammonia, nitrite, nitrate) are invisible yet can become a substantial threat to animals in a closed environment. Turtles are, gram for gram, among the nastiest creatures in the world.

Don't take this with offence, as I do not mean for you to, but be careful when it comes to those caresheets. It seems a common trend for vets and vet students to rely far too heavily on caresheets when it comes to herps. I can understand why. You guys are confronted with so many different organisms that are in many cases not particularly related (other than being called reptiles and amphibians by means of our language) and usually under-researched insofar as health maladies. Just the same, while there are some very, very good chelonian caresheets out there, I have never known one to come from a pet shop or vet office (although, admittedly, I have been to relatively few of both). Oftentiems, the person who writes a caresheet is reiterating what was written for a "closely related" species, or is basing his or her words off of experience with half a dozen specimens - not a significant number by which to represent any entire species.

These turtles are neat captives. Read up on five books that contain a good deal of natural history information about them, then read articles on preferentials towards big-fish tank filtration. That will be a start. Good luck with your little guy.

snakecharmed Sep 09, 2005 02:53 AM

If the softie is 4", a 10 gal. is way to small for him/her. These guys need alot of room to swim. I know that you said that you will only have the turtle during recovery, but this species is really high strung. To be confined in a small place will only stress it out and cause further health problems. You can house him/her in a large rubbermaid container, they are inexpensive. Maybe not as flashy as a tank, but it's effective. 90 degrees is really too warm also. Try for about 78-80 as the warmest. As far as food goes, mine eat a varity of stuff, mazuri fresh water pellets, reptomin (both commercial foods that can be bought at most pet stores, they even carry reptomin at Wally world Also feeder minnows or guppies (stay away from goldfish for they are high in toxins). At four inches, he/she will also probably feed on thawed pinkies. Hope this helps, and good luck with the softie, they truely are amazing creatures. ~Christy~

erico Sep 14, 2005 10:27 AM

For temporary housing ( and I have used them for MANY years as permanent housing because I most interested in unbreakability, weight and ease of cleaning) just buy a DEEP generic clear plastic storage container of appropriate size at your local discount store. You don't have to pay for the Rubbermaid name and they work very well for less than $10.

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