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Gravid Waigeo tree boa?

Kevin Saunders Sep 17, 2005 10:39 PM

I've been keeping an eye on her ever since I got her in case she might already be gravid. She looked pretty swollen in her posterior end a week or two ago, but I thought she might just be constipated. Well she has gone twice now and I still think she looks a little plump, but maybe it's just my imagination. Any opinions?

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Oxyrhopus Sep 20, 2005 10:28 AM

It is difficult to tell. Mine is as big as a house and I have another like it but neither have dropped. Perhaps your waiego is ovulating? Also, I do not think this species eats a rodent diet in the wild, hence there is not much information available on them from strictly feeding them domestic mice. So perhaps they fatten easily? It is hard to determine except if you have witnessed a male on the female. And it seems that when my waiegos got fat, the male was on her more and more. After a few weeks of that I separated them as she was trying to get away from him all the time. Perhaps I did wrong and he needed to breed longer. In any case, I at least am learning a bit about this procedure as it seems much different from what I have experienced with other species. Waiegos don't seem to get easily impacted so soak her in a deli and if she is indeed full of poop, she ought to release it in a few hours or day. Either case, try to get a male and if she is indeed ovulating, she will be more receptive and he more attracted to breed.

Kevin Saunders Sep 20, 2005 02:52 PM

Thanks, I plan to get a male regardless, it just might be a while before I do. She's eating and pooping normally, the only thing that made me think it could be ovulation or gravidity is that she hasn't climbed much lately. She's always on the floor of the enclosure instead of in her tree or driftwood. If she is gravid, I guess she'll just keep getting bigger so I'll know in time. Otherwise, she'll be nice and fat by the time I get a male for her.

deadrats Sep 20, 2005 08:31 PM

One should look at the problems with any Candoia babies, or adults for that matter, before breeding. You will need a MAJOR LEAGUE frog operation in place to keep the offspring alive. Anything less and you have an unfoutunate situation. My 10 cents worth...
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Kevin Saunders Sep 20, 2005 08:56 PM

I don't anticipate an easy time with babies, but hopefully they'll be easier to start on rodents than most others. My female is a WC adult who pounds f/t fuzzies weekly, so hopefully she'll pass that on to any babies. There must be small rodents on Waigeo island because I know of several people who got their WC adults to take them. I know the manager of a local pet store very well, so I should have access to tree frogs, anoles, and geckos if I need them.

deadrats Sep 21, 2005 06:39 PM

I hope that I did not appear "preachy", was not my intention, just poor writing ability.

I do not know how many babies the Candoia c. carinata have, just thinking like the paulsoni. If they have as many babies, it is more a question of being overwhelmed by quantity as not having planned for the need for frogs. But if she is pregnant, it is what it is.

I like the idea that eating FT is passed on, my attached little boy eats FT.

Your situation was what what I was attempting to get to with the paulsoni prior to my disaster. Best of luck, keep us posted on developments and GOOD LUCK !!!

Hope you do not live on the Texas gulf cost, those poor folks are in big TROUBLE, I was in a hurricane, it is unbelievable, God bless those folks...
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Oxyrhopus Sep 22, 2005 04:06 PM

A good idea for those new born candoia is to scent pinky heads with frog juice and put the heads in branches. Frog juice can be obtained from a blender, a defrosted frog, and a bit of water and freeze the juice for later use.

And those newborn candoia can actually swallow a very small day old pinky. I had a small halamahara litter once and threw in some tiny pinks and I was shocked to see that a few of them ate pinks right off the bat. High humidity and warm temps help get them hungry. It was like they swallowed a watermelon.

Dan

deadrats Sep 22, 2005 07:00 PM

I tried using a White's to scent the pinks, it was not a winner. Nice frog though, easy to care for and handles well...

I also had the notion of tadpoles. Often they can be had from a pet store, or netted out of a local pond. Easier to care for than frogs, just throw them in the fish tank. I never had the time to go pond hunting and all that I saw in local pet stores were much too large to be of use.

We could also try putting the pinks in tiny frog costumes, Hmmmm...
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Oxyrhopus Sep 22, 2005 10:07 PM

You read my mind. I am getting some green food color dye to see if I can dye a hopper or fuzzy green to get some of my vipers that are hooked on frogs interested in rodents. Perhaps color matters? I tried scenting and it just does not do it for some, so I will try the dye and see if it makes one or some eat?

Dan

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