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Genetics question......

rainbowsrus Oct 04, 2005 12:00 PM

I am working on a spreadsheet based punnet square file that calculates the possible and probable outcome when crossing two animals with up to three morph genes between them. ie albino/anery/hypo. Does anyone have some unique pairs they have either worked out the results already or want the results determined? I want to run some real test cases through the file to help verify it's function.

Examples:
Male albino het stripe X female Hypo het albino-
25% hypo albino (sunglow) (50% het stripe)
25% albino (50% het stripe)
25% hypo (100% het albino, 50% het stripe)
25% normal (100% het albino, 50% het stripe)

Male hypo, het albino, het Anery X female, het albino, het anery
3% (1/32) hypo/albino/anery - snowglow
9% Hypo/albino - sunglow (67% het anery)
9% hypo/anery - ghost (67% het albino)
28% hypo (67% het albino, 67% het anery)
3% albino/anery - ghost
9% albino (67% het anery)
9% anery (67% het albino)
28% normal (67% het albino, 67% het anery)

I know these are only probabilities and actual results may vary, just trying to work through the possibilities.
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Thanks,

Dave "Rainbows-R-Us"

0.1 Wife
0.2 kids
4.12.100 Brazilian Rainbow Boa
1.1 Ball python
0.1 BCI "Elvira" normal from 1989
1.0 BCI albino / het-anery
0.1 BCI Hypo / het-albino
0.1 BCI Anery / het-albino
0.1 BCI Hypo (possible super)
1.0 BCI albino het stripe
1.0 BCI salmon hypo
0.1 BCI ghost

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

Replies (6)

dutchoven Oct 13, 2005 02:26 PM

Well, I used the genetic wizard and am questioning it's outcome.

How about this:

Male dh sunglow x female snow

Griz

dutchoven Oct 13, 2005 02:27 PM

My thought is that I will end up with more possible hets than anything but that there is the possibility of a few albino's and sunglows. Correct?

rainbowsrus Oct 14, 2005 11:07 AM

I ran it through my genetic spreadsheet and got exactly what I expected:

25% hypo/albino/100% het anery (visual sunglow)
25% Hypo/100% het albino/100% het anery (visual hypo)
25% Albino/100% het anery (visual albino)
25% 100% het albino/100% het anery (visual normal)

Actually a very good pairing in that you know the exact genetics of each ofspring animal by it's visual morph status. All the hets are 100%
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Thanks,

Dave "Rainbows-R-Us"

0.1 Wife
0.2 kids
4.12.136 Brazilian Rainbow Boa
1.1 Ball python
0.1 BCI "Elvira" normal from 1989
1.0 BCI albino / het-anery
0.1 BCI Hypo / het-albino
0.1 BCI Anery / het-albino
0.1 BCI Hypo (possible super)
1.0 BCI albino het stripe
1.0 BCI salmon hypo
0.1 BCI ghost

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

Paul Hollander Oct 14, 2005 11:16 AM

Hi, Dave. You beat me to posting by 3 minutes.

Paul Hollander

rainbowsrus Oct 14, 2005 12:01 PM

although that was an easy one and I'm getting to where I could do that one in my head. Real funny thing is I was surfing over here to find the thread on the albino rainbow and just happened to see the new message(s)
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Thanks,

Dave "Rainbows-R-Us"

0.1 Wife
0.2 kids
4.12.136 Brazilian Rainbow Boa
1.1 Ball python
0.1 BCI "Elvira" normal from 1989
1.0 BCI albino / het-anery
0.1 BCI Hypo / het-albino
0.1 BCI Anery / het-albino
0.1 BCI Hypo (possible super)
1.0 BCI albino het stripe
1.0 BCI salmon hypo
0.1 BCI ghost

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

Paul Hollander Oct 14, 2005 11:10 AM

>Male dh sunglow x female snow

I figure this would produce
1/4 salmon (heterozygous for both albino and anerythristic)
1/4 salmon albino (= sunglow) (heterozygous for anerythristic)
1/4 albino (heterozygous for anerythristic)
1/4 normal looking (heterozygous for both albino and anerythristic)

This assumes that the male is normal at the anerythristic locus and that there are no other recessive genes being carried in both that might match up.

Paul Hollander

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