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Chocolate Banana California Kingsnakes

richh Oct 27, 2005 12:44 PM

For a couple of years now we have been crossing chocolates with bananas. We spent some time working on getting spotted chocolates. Now that they are regulary produced here we have been trying for albino spotted chocolate bananas. Although many het albino spotteds are produced we have yet to produce an albino spotted. What we have been getting though from these are striped albinos. Anyone else working with chocolates and have come up with albino spotteds?

Rich Hebron

Replies (10)

Kerby... Oct 27, 2005 01:23 PM

I produced some of these a few years back. Albino Spotteds.

A cal king can be het for albino but can not be het for spotted or stripe. Spotted is produced from broken up striped. It can be line bred and become more predictable but IS not recessive. It is an aberrant pattern.

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richh Oct 27, 2005 02:50 PM

Close, but with more yellow to the spots. Nice spotted albino though, I like it. I could kick myself for selling off some like that a few years back. Could have used a few in my group here.

The chocolate albinos mixed with the bananas do not tend to have any yellow on the sides in the group I'm working with.

Rich

Kerby... Oct 27, 2005 01:26 PM

from Don Shores' line

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richh Oct 27, 2005 03:08 PM

What I can't figure out is why when mixed with a banana the colors become so pale? I would expect them to show more contrast with individuals expressing a bolder yellow coloring.

Are there photos of the adults that created these? I would be interested in seeing their colors before the mix. What we did here was worked on albino striped bananas first in one group while also working on chocolate spotteds in another and went that route. Mixing the two lines later on. We culled out all the aberrants over the years. We do still have some pop up in our clutches but I have not raised any to see if they held the yellow coloring.

We are only striving for striped and spotteds with no yellow blotching on their heads and sides. Just a deep pink snake with a bright yellow stripe and or spots. Might be shooting to high here but it has been fun thus far.

Have you worked with cultivating an albino striped banana? They keep an very good yellow to them unlike normal albinos that typically fade as they mature.

What other projects are you working with in these kings? These have always interested me. We never stopped working with californians here. They have grown on me over the years but I have not kept up with what others have been doing with them.

Rich Hebron

Kerby... Oct 27, 2005 03:25 PM

Go to this link

Kerby...
My California Kingsnakes

richh Oct 27, 2005 05:06 PM

Geeze Kerby, just a part of what you are working with hahaha. Glad to see someone has kept up so much with these kings and then some.

Rich Hebron

HerperHelmz Oct 27, 2005 06:27 PM

On the "Misc Pics" part of your site.... There are pics of what look to be a yellow and white gila monster? Albino?
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Kerby... Oct 27, 2005 01:28 PM

I produced 2 males this year.

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richh Oct 27, 2005 02:44 PM

Not much yellow to it. Is that typical from your stock?I have been striving to get a bright almost flourescent yellow band/spot in ours.

Rich

vichris Oct 27, 2005 09:25 PM

I saw one like the one you posted this past weekend at a herp show here in Albuquerque. I was deep black with really really nice bright yellow spots. I think one or two spots were very slightly elongated. It was a real screamer. The guy wanted $200.00 for it though. I was tempted but don't really have anything to breed it back to that would produce something similar. Thats a nice one you have there too Rich.
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