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need an ID, please?

najanivea Nov 02, 2005 11:37 AM

Hi. Does anyone have any idea what Naja this is? I've had kaouthia, atra, sputatrix, siamensis.
It's supposed to be a kaouthia...
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Chance Nov 02, 2005 08:41 PM

Well, outwardly I'd have to venture a guess of Naja atra. The hood marking and bodily banding point strongly to that. It could also possibly be a hybrid of some sort, such as between kaouthia and naja, or kaouthia and atra, etc., but if it's pure, I'm guessing atra. Of course, it could also be some sort of natural strange varient of kaouthia or naja, but it's more likely that it's more normal than that. Whatever it is, it's beautiful, and a nice addition to any elapid collection!
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Chance Duncan
www.rivervalleyexotics.com

najanivea Nov 04, 2005 01:18 AM

Many thanks for your reply; they appear to have even Dr. Wuster stumped.
het-for leucistic...?

najanivea Nov 04, 2005 05:19 AM

Another pic...
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Chance Nov 05, 2005 10:08 AM

Generally speaking, just carrying the gene for a recessive trait will not affect the phenotype (outward appearance) of the animal. Sometimes it does though. Mitch at Diamond Reptiles, who produces the hets for leucistic, hets for sunset, and double hets for both, does have snakes that appear slightly odd. They have the 'formosa' appearance, so it's very likely that the original gene carriers were the formosa color/pattern varient or something along those lines. Your animal doesn't just have a lighter color, but a sort of merged hood marking that seems to be an intermediate between the monocle on kaouthia and the spectacle on naja. It's head morphology suggests kaouthia though to me, more than anything, so I'm still thinking it's either a hybrid or just some odd color varient of kaouthia. And again, it's a very nice looking snake, one you should be proud to have in your collection. I would most certainly breed it with another kaouthia asap and see how the babies turn out. You could keep back a few of the babies and see if something strange, like a leucy, pops out. You'll never know until you try. Keep us updated on how things go.
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Chance Duncan
www.rivervalleyexotics.com

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