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im new with day geckos, and dont know too much just yet, so please take it easy on me with the crittisizem(lol). i would like to get a couple day geckos. i have a 30 gall(tall) terrarium that i would like to put 3 diff kinds but only one of each of those in in the enclosure. blue tail day geckos are number 1 on my list. if it turns out i can only get one blue tail, ill be happy with that, but after the blue tail, i'ld just like 2 other small types. is the enclosure too small for mixing them even if all 3 are females? if any one can give me some good advise, prefferable care sheets i would appreciat it. i havent done too much searching just yet, but i am kinda working on that right now.
thanx alot
nevin
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well looking at mygeckos book a blue tailed gecko is normally 6 inches wich would make it a medium sized gecko and it is delicate. I would say a 30 gal would probably be good for just 1 cuz day geckos need alot of place to clip and hide. On mixing species i wouldnt do that with day geckos cuz they are territoral and they can kill the other species and have been know to kill their tank mates also. but if ur looking for a small species i would go for the Neon(yellow headed) or lined and some good ones that are a little bigger are the peacock and gold dust day geckos.
Sorry i dont have any care sheets but i hope that kinda helps.

Big P

Its pretty much like this:

The "blue-tailed" day gecko you're talking about is Phelsuma cepediana. Everyone that sees a picture of one (including myself) wants to keep them as pets. The problem is a couple of things...

First -they are almost impossible to find for sale in the US. When you do find them they are expensive.

Second -They have proved almost impossible to keep alive and breed by even the most dedicated and experienced gecko breeders.

Third - They are agressive towards eachother and other species.
Most day geckos are this way, and when kept in groups, the less dominant animals will fail to thrive or die. In my experience the most agressive are Phelsuma laticauda or "golddust day gecko".

Also, Im not sure if you're aware but the MALE blue tailed day geckos are the beautiful ones you have seen in pictures. The females are far smaller and more drab in coloration. A male blue tailed, like you want, would not be compatible with other species.

For the most part you should not try to keep different species together. It is almost certain one or more of the animals will not do well. Most day geckos are just too agressive. There is one good exception though...

* If you are looking to keep beautiful, small day geckos in groups - Phelsuma klemmeri or "neon day gecko" as Lizarddude720 suggested is the way to go. They are non-agressive and are extrememly beautiful. They are also easier to care for than many. You can keep them in big groups and even raise the babies up in the same tank as the adults. The result is a beautiful vivarium that is alive with many active, neon-colored lizards.

Here is a pic of some of my Phelsuma klemmeri babies from this season.

ok, so blue tail, and mixing is outta the question. are the yellow heads ok in groups? like if i got 3 or 4, and let them grow up togeather, would they be ok? something i wanted for a long time was a standings day gecko, but i thought that a 30 gal tank would be to small. just today i read that 1.1 could be kept in a 20gal tank. i think i might go with one or 2 standings if that would be safe to do. today i also see the grandis. i seen high reds, and blues. i really like the blues. are the blue grandis the same as the blue tails, as in im not going to be able to find them that easiely? i think the grandis are the same as giant day geckos. if they are, then i shouldnt have to hard of a time finding them. could i keep 1.1 grandis in a 30 gal enclosure?
thanks again
nevin
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green tree pythons
yellow anacondas
jungle carpet pythons
brazilian rainbow baos
reticulated pythons
columbian boa constrictors
amazon tree boas
kenyan sand boas
ball pythons
blood pythons
burm pythons
tamed tokay geckos
leopard geckos(all morphs, cept a couple)
crested geckos
bearded dragons
mali uromastyxs
sudanese uromastyxs
poison dart frogs
albino pacman frog
african fat tailed geckos
jacksons chameleon
2.0 brothers
0.2 sisters
4 cats- max the fat pimp dog-cat(rip)
1 miniture mutt-brutis

all ive got is insane

we're never ganna survive unless we get a little..crazy..are the people walking through my head

"dont be afraid to die, only be afraid to not live"

"dont become classified. if you are nothing, then you can be anything."

Hey Nevin,

Ok, let me see if i can remember all those questions...

- Yes, klemmeri (neon day geckos) get along really well in groups. You could keep 3,4 or even 10 or more in a 30 gallon tank.

- Yes, grandis are the "giant day geckos" and you could keep either 1.1 of those or 1.1 standings day geckos together in a 30 gallon tall and they would be comfortable. I recommend one of those 2 (grandis or standings) as your first gecko. They get a little bigger (only 9 or 10 inches) and are easy to care for.

The grandis are much more attractive in my opinion. High red or "crimson" grandis are available too, but don't even waste your time trying to get one of the rare blue ones.

Here is a pic of one of my baby grandis that hatched a few days ago.

ok, i think im ganna go with the giants if i can keep 2. but i really want 2 blues. any idea where i should start looking. i kno theyre probably going to be alot of money, but moneys ussually not a problem.
thank you
nevin
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AIM- McChompinator

green tree pythons
yellow anacondas
jungle carpet pythons
brazilian rainbow baos
reticulated pythons
columbian boa constrictors
amazon tree boas
kenyan sand boas
ball pythons
blood pythons
burm pythons
tamed tokay geckos
leopard geckos(all morphs, cept a couple)
crested geckos
bearded dragons
mali uromastyxs
sudanese uromastyxs
poison dart frogs
albino pacman frog
african fat tailed geckos
jacksons chameleon
2.0 brothers
0.2 sisters
4 cats- max the fat pimp dog-cat(rip)
1 miniture mutt-brutis

all ive got is insane

we're never ganna survive unless we get a little..crazy..are the people walking through my head

"dont be afraid to die, only be afraid to not live"

"dont become classified. if you are nothing, then you can be anything."

Your obstacle to aquiring "blue" grandis is not money, its lack of availability. There are only a few in the world and those who own them are not likely to part with them.

I would say your chances of getting a "blue-tailed" day gecko are far far better!

My suggestion would be to get yourself a couple of normal looking giant days (which are still incredibly beautiful) and start with those first. That way you can keep your eyes and ears open for some blue ones.

Otherwise you will be searching in vain for years while your 30 gallon sits there empty. Get yourself an adult pair and practice your husbandry and breeding techniques with them, that way when a "blue" animal comes along you can get it and you will already be an experienced keeper.

Im not trying to rain on your parade, I just don't want to see you get frustrated in your search... You would have to do some very serious searching to find either a "blue-tailed" day gecko or a blue grandis. The demand for both is extrememly high, but the supply is almost nonexistant.

I wish you the best of luck!

let us know what you end up getting!

PS- I see you keep jungle carpet pythons. I have jungles, IJs, coastals, and a new jaguar carpet that I got from Will Leary a month ago!

Joe

Here is a pic of one of my grandis that was born a few days ago

if thats the case, i guess i will just go with a pair of grandis. i understand about being hard to find them, dont worry about raining on my parade. lol. altho it does kinda suck that the blues are soo to fine. not to sound conceaded, but i have some pretty good conections in finding rare herps. im going on a cruise in the begining of feb, so ill end up getting a pair of grandis at the end of feb(the next reptile show ill be going to). thanks for your help. and yes, i do have jungles. i put my pair togeather for the second time this month. i ussually put them togeather, and the seporate them, just to avoid too much stress. but yeah, there pretty cool. i like the jags, there awsome. do you have any pics of him yet?
nevin
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AIM- McChompinator

green tree pythons
yellow anacondas
jungle carpet pythons
brazilian rainbow baos
reticulated pythons
columbian boa constrictors
amazon tree boas
kenyan sand boas
ball pythons
blood pythons
burm pythons
tamed tokay geckos
leopard geckos(all morphs, cept a couple)
crested geckos
bearded dragons
mali uromastyxs
sudanese uromastyxs
poison dart frogs
albino pacman frog
african fat tailed geckos
jacksons chameleon
2.0 brothers
0.2 sisters
4 cats- max the fat pimp dog-cat(rip)
1 miniture mutt-brutis

all ive got is insane

we're never ganna survive unless we get a little..crazy..are the people walking through my head

"dont be afraid to die, only be afraid to not live"

"dont become classified. if you are nothing, then you can be anything."

I was cleaning out their cage last night and i snapped this picture. They're both about 6 months old.